The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

:rofl Exactly what I'm talking about.. Yes, Olympic style testing is good. Yes, fighters should be tested year round.. Oh, but here's a big ass post on why Manny should have been granted a cutoff. :rofl:rofl:roflatsch

Have a good day.

 

To recap:

I've posted the thoughts of 2 of the most knowledgeable subject matter experts (Conte; Caitlin) on Pac's proposal. Both claim it is insufficient.

You respond by dismissing these experts with your own very unsubstantiated belief that their opinion is voided by Pac's proposed post fight blood test, which you (again pulled out of your anus) claim they didn't consider when coming up with their own thoughts. You then continue to flood this forum with this claim in spite of not able to produce ANYTHING that backs this up.

Can't argue with some of you Pac Fans. Y'all just in too deep, mayne.

Sad indeed. :verysad

 

It's called a compromise.

Manny agreed to Floyd's testing demands, so Floyd could have agreed to Manny's cut off request.

It shouldn't have been an issue.

 

Yes, because Manny deserves a compromise.. No other boxers do, they should test up to the fight.. Hell, Olympic boxers shouldn't even get a compromise.. Just Manny. :rofl

So do you agree Olympics should stop testing boxers 14 days out because according to Conte and Dr. Catlin they can't cheat?.
(Oh, added this in after you quoted me.. So I changed original post back and added it to this one.)

I love ESB. You guys make my day. Have a good one.. I'm sure we'll reply to each other's posts on here another day. :thumbsup

 

Go back and READ it again.

I'm not disagreeing with those experts.

What I'm saying is, they only used the 24 day cut off as their examples.

They didn't do a hypothetical scenario with a 14 day cut off.

They also DID NOT take into account Manny's offer of an after fight blood test.

Using their theories and expertise, Manny could not have benefited from a 14 day cut off.

Using their theories and expertise, Manny COULD hypothetically have benefitted from a 24 day cut off, but not with an after fight blood test.

Do you understand?

Their theories were just hypothetical scenarios working from a 24 day cut off.

There wouldn't have been an ISSUE with a 14 day cut off, and an after fight test.

I'm not arguing against what they've wrote, but they've only used ONE example out of a possible 4.

Floyd did NOT need Manny to be randomly tested all the way up to the day of the fight. :good

 

44-0. No blueprint.

 

I think Manny deserved a compromise, after he'd been issued with demands, being labelled a cheat, and the fact that it wouldn't have made ANY difference to Floyd's procedure.

You're comparing what they've done in the Olympics for a while, to Floyd just suddenly demanding it from nowhere.

It's hardly the same is it?

I don't know why you're comparing Olympic Athletes with Manny's situation?

We don't know what the circumstances are regarding Olympic boxers.

What I'm saying is, if Manny had a 9 week camp, where he was randomly tested for the first 7 weeks, and had a 14 day cut off, and an after fight test, it wouldn't be possible for him to cheat.

That is BASED on Conte's and Catlin's theories.

Go and read the links.

 

Much as it makes me gag, MVC, Floyd makes a good case for it. He talks the talk 'n walks the walk.

 

So, should Olympic boxers have testing stopped 2 weeks out from the fight, because an after the fight test would catch anything they tried in the last two weeks? Are you saying no, just because that's what they've done for a while?

 

Yep.

 

I don't know what protocol they use. Stop being argumentative. They're not professional fighters.

How often do they get tested etc?

I'm working off of Manny having a 9 week camp, and using Conte's and Catlin's theories.

If Floyd had have granted a 14 day cut off, Manny was not able to cheat, according to those theories.

If you want to dispute that, then go and read the link and get back to me.

I'm off to bed, I'll catch up with you soon. :good

 

He wouldn't win a round against Williams that why he ducked him

 

You simply continue to pull this out of your arse.

But keeping spinning. It's hilarious.

 

Williams? The guy who lost Carlos Quintana? The guy who got KTFO by Sergio Martinez?

C'mon man. STOP. STOP this man. Even Ray Charles can see this ****.

 

Show me their hypothetical examples where they've accounted for an after fight blood test?

Show me?

I've used their own theories.

According to their expertise, Manny could not have cheated with a 14 day cut off, and an after fight blood test.

I'll break it down for you.

If Manny had've had an after fight blood test, and he'd have taken something in the last week, it would have shown up.

So the only way around that, would be to not use in the last week to avoid detection after the fight.

That means that out of his free 14 days, he could only have used for 7 days roughly.

That wouldn't have benefited him in anyway according to Catlin and Conte's theories.

You can apply the same logic for a 24 day cut off.

If Manny had 24 days and he used everyday, the after fight test would catch him out.

So again, out of a 24 day window, he'd only be able to juice for about 14 days.

Again, 14 days would not be sufficient to benefit.

They only benefit would be if he had a clear 24 days.

To be able to have a clear 24 days, and be able to leave a free week, to not get caught in the after fight test, he'd have needed a 30 + day cut off.

Do you understand?

Read what I've put, and read what they've put.

Manny would have needed 24 days to benefit, without being tested after.

He'd only have got that freedom from a 30 day or over period.

Floyd did not need Manny to be tested all the way up to the fight.

A 14 day or 24 day cut off would have been sufficient.

Manny could not have cheated in those time frames.

Let me know when you understand.