The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No you wouldn't, you would have to submit OSDT first before anything can happen :lol::lol:.
     
  2. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd say that Arum keep 30% of Pac check, **** Miss Jackson probably keep 80% of Floyd check and all he gets is a fake kiss on camera :lol:.
     
  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Is this the same smokescreen tactic of relative worth he used for Alexander and Guerrero.
     
  4. Concrete

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    Cotto was on a 3 fight win streak with a redemption win over Margo. His confidence was at the highest its been since fighting Margo and he was in the best condition in his career working with Diaz. Plus he became a way smarter fighter.

    The WW version who fought Mosley was physically at his peak in terms of damage. But he wasn't mentally ready or conditioned properly to deal with Mayweather in 2009. Who was WAAY faster and more athletic then the version that Cotto fought at 154.

    But I do agree the reason Mayweather fought Cotto at 154 was because he wasn't a big Jr WW who would raise up to 170+pds. He also always seemed to like Cotto personally and Cotto earned enough as a boxer to be able to ask for things.
     
  5. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Cotto just isnt a big 154. thats a good weight for him but hes not gonna come in 170+ so Mayweather had no problem fighting him.
     
  6. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dont forget


    "canelos not a ppv attraction!"

    "amir khan has a country behind him, a COUNTRY"
     
  7. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some of these are actually pretty good.
     
  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fact: Canelo is 22 years old, he is not going to grow anymore. Also there where many young fighters that came before Canelo, and they were able to maintain their weight before and after their fights. So if other young fighters can manage their weight, so can Canelo. Its called being professional!

    Fact: when The day before weigh ins where enforced in the 80s, their was little research done on the demands of a fighters nutritional needs. This is no-longer the case with todays athletes. fighter have nutritionist to help them, and the advancement in vitamins supplements, which mean the days of a poorly hydrated fighter a thing of the past.



    Lets not forget that fighter are allowed to drink re-hydration drink during the match.
    with that being said a fighter should be able to make weigh the day of the fight with no problem, unless the fighter is walking around 30lb above his/her fighting weight.

    So their is no excuse for a fighter stepping in the ring 20 + pound over the weight limit, unless one the fighter is too big for the devision, or two he/she has bad eating habits.
     
  9. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac fought Margo at 150. Said he'd never go back there as it was too high. Tried to fight Cotto years later at 150.. Since then hasn't offered any other fighter above 147 a fight. So he was too small, then big enough, and too small again? Or did he realize 150 was too big, then wanted to give it another try? Or did he only want to fight Cotto at 150, and not any other JMW?

    Floyd went up to fight Oscar. Didn't go back there for another 5 years. After Cotto immediately went back to 147... Can he not realize 154 is too big for him too?
     
  10. Loudon

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    pit,

    It's not about growing, it's about the toll on his body. I've got a mate who's a boxer, and when he was in his early 20's he could make weight easy. As soon as he got past 23/24, it became a nightmare, and he wasn't doing anything different. Canelo is big for the division and I think he'll move up soon.

    What do you mean when you say other fighters managed their weight? Everyone's different. It's nothing to do with being professional. Canelo may hydrate healthily and go up to 170. Oscar went to 165 at 154. When the time comes when he's killing himself to hit 154, that's when he's going to have to go to 160.

    Again, who says Canelo is a poorly hydrated fighter?

    If Canelo doesn't have to kill himself to hit 154, and he rehydrates healthily by 20 pounds, I don't see a problem. As long as he doesn't start to feel tired and sluggish, he's ok. You're making an issue where there isn't one. Floyd's a 36 year old grown man. He knows the score. Now he could have sat at home and thought "If I go up to 154, every guy a fight is going to have a huge weight advantage over me on fight night." He was happy to fight Oscar at 165, he's come back won another belt, and said he wants to defend it. When Canelo goes up to 160, he might be outweighed by a big amount.

    Why does there have to be an excuse?

    I can't see Canelo having bad eating habits. He'd only be too big for the division, if he could hardly make the weight. As it stands, I feel he's pretty comfortable, and yes you could say he's fortunate if the extra weight gives him an advantage, but it's not an unfair advantage.

    As long as he weighs in at 154 or under, there shouldn't be an issue.
     
  11. Loudon

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    He could have realized that 154 was too big for him, but he said he wanted to defend his title didn't he?

    He could have relinquished his belt, but he didn't.
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do we know he won't? You all love to say Mayweather contradicts himself and changes what he says, could this be one of these situations? When do you realistically expect an announcement on who Floyd's facing next? :think You
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why would he relinquish it after he's said he wants to defend it? Also, how would that look?

    If he's definitely fighting in Sept, I'd expect his opponent to be announced in around a months time.

    I think Canelo will definitely fight Cotto next, and he'll stop him.
     
  14. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why would he say "Pacquiao you're next." "I didn't say that" as you all love to quote? :huh How does that look?

    Ok, so all this bitching and moaning about what Sr. said is for what exactly if you don't expect any announcement for another month?

    I mean Floyd, not Canelo.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It doesn't look good when he contradicts himself.

    It doesn't matter when they announce Floyd's next opponent, because I'm 100% convinced that Canelo will be fighting Cotto next.

    The moaning is based on Reynose's comments, which were that Floyd wants 147, and won't do a catchweight.

    We don't know if this is 100% legit, but I don't really have any cause for doubting him.
     
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