The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd wanted random testing. Pacquiao not only wanted a 30 day cutoff, he wanted there to only be 3 tests; one at the press conference, one right after the fight, and one at least 30 days before the fight. The part about only having 3 tests could not be accommodated. It's not random when you know how many tests there are and when they're going to take place.

    However, he did offer Pacquiao a 14 day cutoff, so he did meet Pacquiao in the middle in concern with his 30 day cutoff request(a request that was amended to 24 days once video surfaced of Pacquiao getting blood drawn 24 days before the Hatton fight). However, Pacquiao's side rejected the 30 day cutoff, they ended the negotiations, and Pacquiao promptly signed to fight Clottey a day or two,later.
     
  2. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I said, I don't care about the drama between two divas. That's what these illogical arguments always comes down to. Who does Floyd think he is? Who does Manny think he is?

    Stipulating conditions that render tests invalid, like a cutoff date, is a joke. If you don't think that is fishy, there isn't much else to say.
     
  3. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    ^This !!!
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    But you're not willing to look at the circumstances involved are you?

    The drama between the two diva's, shows you why everything happened as it did.

    Issuing testing demands and labelling someone a cheat without proof is a joke.

    Why couldn't Manny have a cut off, with an after fight test?

    We know that in the end, that Manny agreed to everything, but Floyd wasn't interested in making the fight.
     
  5. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who demands what is irrelevant. You keep asking why can't Manny have a cutoff. Because it invalidates the test, more specifically the randomness of the procedure. End of story.
     
  6. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    mayweather nor gbp never said pac was a cheater in 2009, when manny ducked, ran and sued instead
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stylez G,

    Yes, Manny originally wanted the three tests.

    But Floyd wouldn't agree to it.

    So Manny wanted a 30 day cut off, later reduced to 24.

    Floyd could have accepted that cut off, but he refused, and said he wanted a 14 day cut off.

    So there was a stalemate.

    Then Floyd came out and said "He's had his chance, now my new terms are testing all the way up to the fight."

    So Manny went and fought Clottey.

    There was no reason why Floyd couldn't have accepted the 24 day cut off request, that included a urine test at any point, and a blood test directly after the fight.

    Manny agreed to the initial tests, so Floyd could have agreed the 24 day cut off.

    I like how you say, that Manny walked away, as though he was to blame.

    He only walked away because Floyd wouldn't budge, and then he made new terms.


    Again, nobody else had an issue fighting Manny around that time, and the Mayweather's had absolutely no proof whatsoever that Manny was dirty.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course it's relevant.

    Why would it have invalidated the test?

    He'd have had a 9 week training camp, and he wanted a 24 day cut off request.

    So from week 1-6, Manny could have been randomly urine and blood tested at any point.

    He then wanted his 24 days, but was willing to be urine tested at any point, and then he was willing to do an after fight blood and urine test.

    So where's the issue?

    THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY PROOF THAT HE WAS DIRTY.

    Floyd could have agreed to the 24 day cut off, but he wouldn't.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about?

    There was never an issue about testing, until Sept 2009, when Floyd Snr said that he thought Manny was dirty.

    Then three months later, the OSDT'ing demands came to light.

    Ducked and ran? Ha!

    He didn't run anywhere.

    Manny wanted a 24 day cut off, Floyd wouldn't budge, so Manny fought Clottey.

    Why did everything have to be on Floyd's terms, when there was no proof whatsoever that Manny was dirty?

    What happened last year, when Manny agreed to ALL of Floyd's demands, and a 45% of the purse?

    Was Floyd finally happy to make the fight?

    No he wasn't!

    It was ok for Manny to be slandered, with no proof, but it wasn't ok, that he sued for defamation of character?

    What world do you live in?
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Well you have to ask why he is now a convert.
     
  11. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes he ducked and made excuses, then top rank cancelled negotiations.

    pac says a lot of things but arum put out a statement saying they werent interested in the fight
     
  12. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why did Manny want a CUT OFF DATE to begin with???

    Do you realize that a cut off date invalidates the entire point of RANDOM testing???

    Do you know of a sport where they have cut off dates for RANDOM testing?

    And why does Manny resquest that same testing now???

    What world do YOU live in?
     
  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Its clear only one boxer ever wanted the fight,and it wasn 't Floyd
     
  14. bodyopus

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    Yep, he wanted it so bad that he made every excuse in the book not to take a test that he is demanding that others take now. Excellent logic!:huh
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You mean like the $10 million per pound Pacquiao asked for? ****ing moron and a piece of **** hypocrite. Seriously, you're a ****ing jackass just like the rest of these clowns with some serious double standards.

    FYI - Manny's team didn't say a word about having a problem with any type of random tests until AFTER Mayweather agreed to their ridiculous deal-killing demand. ($10 million per pound is OUTRAGEOUS and has never been asked in the entire history of boxing. Extra drug testing HAS been asked before.) Check the timeline of public comments you dunce: They balked on testing AFTER Mayweather was ready to sign.

    They ducked Mayweather and wouldn't accept a 14-day cut-off, which was more than fair. They tried to push for this months later as well after using it as an excuse to kill the biggest fight in a decade. Totally shameless, and again, idiots like you defend them.

    I can smell a total idiot as soon as anybody defends Pacquiao, or his team, with what went on with the Mayweather negotiations. Absolutely dirty display by Bob Arum and company. Devoid of any business ethics what-so-ever.
     
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