The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

You said he should've met him in the middle and he did, and was still rebuffed.

Don't make up your own timeline. Mayweather said testing would be all the way up to the fight after Pacquiao agreed to fight Clottey.

There's no reason Pacquiao needed any sort of cutoff. He claims it was because getting blood taken weakens him. Yet he went back to training the day after getting blood drawn for the Hatton fight. Now he's requested that Rios undergo the same testing and there is no predeterminded cutoff. Having a no testing window could allow someone to cheat. Give me a good reason why he needed a 24 day window.

No he didn't. The request was for random blood and urine testing. Manny wanted to detrmine when and how many times he was tested. How is that random?

Floyd wouldn't budge? They had a last effort meeting with a mediator. It was at this meeting that Mayweather relented and offered a 14 day window. This of course was in between what he wanted and what Pacquoiao wanted. Pacquiao's side said no dice, they walked away from negotiations, and then lied and claimed Mayweather wouldn't comprimise. You can blame whoever you want, that's your opinion. But it's a fact that Pacquiao's side are the ones who walked away from the negotiations.

Manny has no proof that Rios is dirty, yet he's requesting the same style of testing. Mayweather's request was unusual at the time, but it certainly wasn't unreasonable.

 

CIRCUMSTANCES!

He said last year that he'd agree to all of Floyd's demands, and take a 45% cut, but Floyd wasn't interested.

 

That's 2 years too late........... He ducked him and then got knocked out by a man who couldn't win a round against Mayweather.

Case ****ing closed. Manny is irrelevant and was never on that level. Fighting a guy coming off a loss at 140 pounds to Mike Alvarado is really stepping up the competition and good preparation for a Mayweather fight......

Mayweather would be publicly tarred and feathered if he fought Rios, especially coming off a loss to Mike Alvarado a division below. Another double standard by you ass hats.

 

You're just picking little snippets out of a whole load of things that happened.

Arum made a statement, saying, that he didn't believe that Floyd was serious about a fight, so they were moving on.

Do you know what happened after that?

Floyd met with Arum.

How the **** did Manny duck?

Does Manny not agreeing to ALL of Floyd's demands, constitute as a duck??

He wanted 24 days.

Floyd said NO.

There was a stalemate.

Then Floyd said, it was testing up until the day of the fight, or no fight.

So Manny fought someone else.

So why is Manny getting all of the blame?

 

Your time line and facts are so ****ing out of wack it is ridiculous. Seriously, just STFU dude. You don't know ****.

Believe it or not, the chronological order in which statements are made, and the time in between said statements, actually matter. Idiot.

 

Excellent post I agree 100% The fight would have been in Vegas & therefore be subject to NSAC rules Not Mayweather rules. You only have to look at what the NSAC lets Floyd get away with to see why he wont fight anywhere else

 

:rofl how do people not see this?

 

No, Floyd never met with Arum last year. When Pac was saying he'd take 45%, Top Rank werent interested.

 

But Victor don't forget Floyd fought both Cotto & Judah coming of devastating losses He fought Ortiz too who many ridiculed at the time yet Floyd couldn't knock him OUT even when cold****ing him.
But that's Floyd he has his own set of rules lol

 

Judah fight was made under Top Rank promotions, i.e - Bob Arum. The loss to Baldomir was considered a "fluke" to many as well, so people were still clamoring for Mayweather to fight the former lineal champion. But again, Bob Arum was in control at that time.

Cotto was coming off a string of victories, not a loss, when they fought at 154 pounds and held the WBA title. If you recall, Manny turned down a fight with Cotto at 154 as well.
Ortiz had the WBC title coming off his win against Berto, and was ranked the #3 welterweight in the world behind Manny and Floyd.

Mayweather has only fought two people during his championship career who were coming off an official loss in their previous fight: A rematch with Castillo, and his fight with Judah. That's it. And none during the time he has been a "free agent." (Baldomir fight onward is Mayweather's own management team instead of Top Rank)

 

It was Manny's prerogative, to ask for a cut off date.

Floyd had no issue regarding testing. None at all. Early in 2009, Floyd never mentioned anything.

Then Floyd Snr started a wild, unsubstantiated rumour that Manny was dirty, with a bull**** excuse.

Floyd then wanted testing all the way up to the fight.

He wanted that based on nothing but a rumour made by his Dad.

NOBODY else had an issue fighting Manny.

So Floyd made his demands, and Manny agreed but wanted a cut off.

WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?

It's ok for Manny to be slandered, and to be issued with testing demands, but when he wants a cut off, it's not ok?

WHY??



He would of had a 9 week camp.

He would have been randomly tested for blood and urine, at ANY point within a 6 week period.

He was also happy to be urine tested at ANY point leading up to the fight, and was willing to do an after fight blood and urine test.

There was no reason why Floyd couldn't have granted that 24 day cut off.

But he wouldn't budge.

He wanted 14.

Manny wouldn't agree.

Then Floyd made new terms, where the 14 days were off the table, and it was to be all the way up to the fight again.



Why is Manny requesting the same thing now?

Because his circumstances have changed, due to Floyd's behaviour.

Now everyone wants their opponent to be tested.

A lot has happened within the last 4 years.

But the guys who are asked to partake in the testing, haven't been publicly slandered, and have had to sue for defamation of character.

Are you forgetting that Manny agreed to all of Floyd's testing demands last year, before he fought Marquez?

It was Manny's right to ask for a cut off 4 years ago.

Why?

Because Floyd had made ridiculous demands, based on his Dad's comments, and there was no proof that Manny was using.

There was NO EVIDENCE!


It's ok for Floyd to issue demands, but when Manny doesn't agree, it's his fault?

It's ridiculous!

 

so why all the excuses and the cutoff? where are these excuses and cutoff demands for rios?

I thought blood draining weakens Pac

 

Actually, Castillo was coming off a win going into the Mayweather rematch. However, Corley was coming off a loss to Judah when Mayweather fought him.

 

And you can't work out as to why??

Have any of the fighters that are willing to be tested, been slandered, and had to sue for defamation?

Manny agreed to what he's agreeing to now, last year, to try and Fight Floyd.

And what happened?

 

top rank werent going to deal with gbp anymore arum said so you ****ing fool atsch