The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why don't you ask yourself some questions, such as:


    1.Why didn't Floyd grant the 24 day cut off?


    2. Why wasn't Floyd happy to fight last year, when Manny agreed to everything?


    3. Why did no other fighter have an issue signing to fight Manny?


    Who says they were excuses?

    Blood might weaken him.

    But now everyone is asking for these tests.

    Again, Manny agreed to be tested up until the day of the fight, just like he's doing for Rios, last year.

    Yet Floyd still wasn't satisfied.
     
  3. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Manny can agree to whatever he wants, Arum is his boss and makes the contract and they stated they weren't interested in the fight anymore
     
  4. Loudon

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    At what point???

    What had gone before that?

    What happened after?
     
  5. bodyopus

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    So because his father mentioned it in the press, that means the idea came from him? How do you know that Floyd didn't bring it up to his father? YOU DON'T! Just speculation on your part.

    Pac has show with his own demands that there wa abosolutely no reason to ask or a cutoff.



    Floyd wanted zero days. Pac wanted 30 which changed to 24 after he was caught lying. Floyd met in the middle which was fair.

    You conveniently fogot to mention the part where Pac walked away from negotiations and the fight.


    You make every excuse in the book for Manny. Circumstances changed? If that's the case, circumtances had changed before his fight with Bradley yet hewasn't interested in testing. Shane & Marquez mentioned testing and Pac wanted nothing to do with it. NOW all of the sudden, because Pac decides to do drug testing, thats when circustances have changed? Pac stood by his decision previously and he could've comtinued that stance. He didn't! HE changed the circumstances and demanded the testing of Rios. If he hadn't it wouldn't have been looked at as any diffent than any of his other fights. There is NO EVIDENCE of Rios being dirty, yet you are fine with Manny demanding drug testing of him that he's never asked of anyone else.
     
  6. mr. piff

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    Because we were waiting for the stadium that bob was building

    Then there was the issue about a cut needing time to heal
     
  7. Loudon

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  8. markq

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    You tell me Mr Expert since I'm sure you're going to Google anything I say. All these Olympic style tests are up to the day of the event. But of course you know better than them right? If you care to Google you will find things like EPO can be undetectable within 24 hours.

    That is twenty four HOURS not DAYS!
     
  9. Loudon

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    Why do you keep bringing up Rios?

    Have you been on the moon for the last four years?

    There's a whole load of things that's happened within the last four years.


    Lets talk about being FAIR.


    Manny Pacquiao was labelled as a dirty cheat, without an OUNCE OF PROOF!

    Yes?


    Floyd on the back of his Dad's rumour, then DEMANDED OSDTing.

    Yes?


    Then what?

    Manny agreed.


    Despite being labeled a cheat, and issued with demands, he agreed.


    So, Manny agreed to the tests, but wanted 24 days.


    But Floyd said no.


    Now seen as Manny had agreed to the tests, don't you think that it would have been FAIR for Floyd to grant him the 24 days??
     
  10. Loudon

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    He would have had a 9 week camp!

    He would have been RANDOMLY tested at ANY point within a 6 week period, and then straight after the fight.

    And why should he have had to be randomly tested at any point for the full 9 weeks, just because Floyd Snr's got a big mouth?


    There was nothing wrong, with randomly testing him at any point for 6 weeks, with a random urine test at any point, plus an after fight test.

    Do you seriously think that Manny was going to use for 2.5 weeks out of a 9 week camp?

    Also, if a cut off date invalidates the test, then why did Floyd say he could have a 14 day cut off?
     
  11. -GhettoWizard-

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    Top Rank said they weren't interested! what are you having trouble understanding here?
     
  12. Loudon

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    Pac demanded EVERYTHING?

    Floyd started the ball rolling.

    Issuing demands, that were based on a rumour with no proof.
     
  13. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I get tired of repeating this but i hate ignorant people spewing shiiit

    THE REASON THIS FIGHT NOT HAPPENED IS BOB ARUM

    Oscar dropped his asss, then became his main rival

    Floyd dropped his asss too and was fighting under Golden Boy

    do you really think Arum wanted his cashcow to lose to Floyd of all people?

    Do you think he would want to split the money with oscar?

    use. . . . your. . . . brains
     
  14. -GhettoWizard-

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    no, manny wanted the weight issue pentaly and it was agreed prior to any drug testing coming up. manny had everything, but refused to give anything
     
  15. Loudon

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    You have been given an answer!

    Times have changed.

    In 2009, nobody had made demands like Floyd had, wanting people to be OSDT'd up until the day of the fight.

    Manny agreed, but wanted a cut off, because he didn't want to give blood that close to the fight.

    He was well within his rights to say that, and I also think that it was said, so he wasn't completely giving in to Floyd. Both fighters have huge ego's.

    But four years later, we're now in a situation where fighters want their opponents tested.

    After Floyd had showed off four years ago, he couldn't back down.

    So his opponents have been tested.

    But the circumstances were different.

    So now, more and more fighters want these tests.

    So Manny knows, that he'll more than likely get asked by his opponent to be tested in this manner.


    That should clear things up for you.

    In 2009, it was unheard of. Now everyone wants it.


    But again, Manny (before he agreed to it with Rios) agreed to do it last year with Floyd, to finally make the fight.

    But Floyd wasn't interested.


    You can't just say - "How come Manny will do it now, but not back in 2009?"


    It's due to circumstances, and again, Manny was willing to do it in 2012.
     
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