The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

I know that Floyd said that. Because he was like an angry 5 year old, who'd not gotten what he'd wanted.

But we're talking about the biggest fight ever!

If Manny was big enough to back down and say "Ok, you win, I'll do the 14 days" then why couldn't Floyd have said "OK"?

In 2010, Floyd didn't act angrily, he said he wanted to spend time with his family, and wasn't thinking about boxing.

So, he wasn't thinking about boxing, when the 14 day stumbling block had been overcome?

The man who calls himself MONEY, who's in the cheque cashing business, wouldn't cash Manny's cheque, because he wanted some family time?

 

He was willing to do it last year too. But it didn't make any difference.

 

There's are stark difference between saying it and having it down on a written contract.

 

I know that Floyd wanted OSDTing at the start of the OFFICIAL negotiations.

But again, he could have made a statement early in 2009, stating that he wanted all future opponents to partake in those tests.

HE DIDN'T!

Because it obviously wasn't in his mind, until his Daddy put in there in September of 2009.

Floyd gave many interviews early in 2009, and the testing of ANY FUTURE OPPONENT wasn't on his mind.

When's Floyd got something to say, he says it.

He was only on his clean up mission, after his Daddy's outburst.

 

He met Floyd's 14 day cut off demand, and Floyd wasn't interested.

Just like Floyd wasn't interested last year.

 

Why couldn't Manny just do the test like Shane Mosley did in 2010? :conf

 

How do you know that Floyd hadn't mentioned it to his father before Sr. ever mentioned it?

Ok, so what! He had just fought Mosley and wanted to take a break. Isn't that his perogotive? SRL took a lot more time off from boxing than Floyd has. What the hell does that mean?

You want to blame Floyd for Pac asking for a cutoff,t hat he never should've asked for in the first place, and then blame him again because Pac changed his mind and accepted an offer that was no longer being offered. When does Pac have any reponsibility w/you?

 

I've already addressed this.

Floyd was being mardy because he's got a huge ego, and he'd not gotten what he'd wanted.

But there was no reason why he couldn't have backed down, like Manny did.

If Manny could back down from his 24 day cut off stance, to agree to the 14 days, then Floyd could also have backed down from offering no days, back to his original 14.

There's no reason why that couldn't have happened.

Everything else you've wrote, can be viewed objectively by looking at the timeline that was posted a few pages back.

You've just picked out certain pieces to suit your argument.

Of course Manny turned down the $40m! As if he was going to let Floyd have the ENTIRE PPV revenue, from what would have been the biggest fight of all time. It was a bull**** offer!

 

This was after Floyd had tried to claim all the PPV money. How can you deal with someone that acts in that manner?

They never got to the contract stage. Floyd met with Arum late last year, and nothing came of it.

 

bodyopus,

If Floyd had've mentioned it to his Father before September, and they'd both agreed that Manny was dirty, then why didn't he make a statement saying that he wished any future opponent to be OSDT up to the fight?

In 2010, Manny had backed down to try and make the fight.

But Floyd said "At this particular time, Floyd Mayweather is taking probably a year off, a couple of years off, from the sport of boxing. I don't really know what the future holds for Floyd Mayweather at this particular time, but you know I could probably take a couple of years off."

Ha! How convenient.

He said that one month after Manny had backed down.

There was no other negotiations. Manny had given in, Floyd could have accepted, but he walked and didn't fight for another 15 months.

Floyd should never have asked Pac to do the testing in the first place.

There was NO EVIDENCE, his Daddy's reasoning was bull****, and he wasn't bothered about any fighter being tested, in the early part of 2009. Also, nobody else had an issue fighting Manny.

Why was the offer no longer being offered?

Floyd can pick and choose as he pleases. He's his own man, and makes his own decisions.

Ha! You guys are making out that he couldn't have changed his mind, once he'd said it was off of the table.

Why not??

If Manny could change his mind and agree to the 14 days to make the fight, then Floyd also could have changed his mind.

There was nothing stopping him.

 

Learn to comprehend kid. I said the 40 million could have been used as a starting point. I have said on this forum before that I don't give a **** about Floyd offering Manny 40 million bc that offer should have never happen. Floyd had no business calling Manny and the only reason he ended up calling him is bc his people (Shaefer, Ellerbe and mediator) could not get Arum on the phone.

The mediator said that he was told by Arum that Top Rank was not interested in making a fight with Mayweather at the time and Manny sat back while Arum came out with a million excuses. Manny is at fault for this fight not happening just as much as anyone else. You know that too even though you don't want to admit it.

Floyd didn't have to go back to the 14 days he offered bc Manny turned that down. If I offer you something and you turn it down I will not offer it again. We must discuss new terms. :deal

 

You say Floyd should never had asked Manny for testing but will you say the same thing about Manny asking Rios?

Rios has never failed a test. :deal

Why is Manny asking Rios for testing when Rios has never failed anything?

 

Im just wondering, is there a cut off date in Pac vs Rios fight?

 

Not to my knowledge. Manny wants full testing.

 

mrjotatp4p,

The offer couldn't have been used as anything, because you can't negotiate with a guy who behaves in that manner. The offer was rightly laughed off. There was nothing to counter as a starting point.

Both fighters were at fault, but Floyd started the ball rolling, and my only argument here, is to all of Floyd's fans that excuse any action of his. There's guys on here, that if you ask them straight out if they hold Floyd responsible, they can't answer you.

That's complete bull****. The only person that was stopping Floyd from changing his mind, was Floyd himself.

No, he didn't have to go back, but HE COULD HAVE DONE to make the fight.

Manny didn't have to say "Ok, I'll do the 14 days."

He could have left it, and never said another word about it.

But he changed his mind, and he backed down.

If Manny could have backed down to make the fight, then Floyd could have done the same.

There was nothing stopping him.