The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

I think he runs over most of them even more impressively, as he did with Hatton, Cotto, ODLH and to a certain extent Mosley. JMM would have been a close fight but he would have probably edged or even stopped that bloated version of JMM. He was on his way to stopping JMM in 4th fight, difference is JMM had Angel Heredias "undetectable" juice and managed to put him down twice post Heredia when he could not do it before.

Canelo is a tricky one, might be too much size there.

 

Pac loses to Marquez and Canelo

 

He had nine losses and 4 draws or something he was nothing more than a journeyman that got lucky against a mental midget like Judah and made the best of it and became a welterweight champion, the worst welterweight champion i can think of, he was ****,Judah was ****, this thread is ****, i'm outta here before i catch something.

 

This is what I mean though. Im saying if he fought these guys under the circumstances that Floyd did.

THeres no doubt that Pacquiao beat Cotto and DLH worse. I wont even make an argument for that. TKO's are more defining then a UD and a SD .

But could he do that to Cotto or Oscar at 154? I dont think so.

I dont think Pacquiao beats the Oscar that Floyd fought. Smaller Ring, With Huge Gloves, giving Oscar a 15 lb weight advantage, and fighting at 154? I think Oscar rips Pacquiao a new one. Pac fought Oscar and Oscar was drained to ****, sluggish and slow.

 

What's it matter? They both ducked Carlos Maussa.

 

And lets see, Pacquiao would lose to Canelo at 152.
He wouldn't even fight Cotto at 154 when they were negotiating a rematch and wanted to bring him down to 150.

He would have a KO loss Marquez at welterweight since you, he already has one.

 

Interesting take.

 

I made a thread on Floyd-Oscar vs Pac-Oscar and it has nothing to do with the weight. Oscar's previous fight to Pacquiao was Steve Forbes was at 150, he was trying to get down to 147 for a rematch with Floyd but Floyd went on vacation so brought Pac up from 135 instead. This was all styles, Oscar moved exactly the same and Pacquiao's angle and movement just befuddled Oscar. Pac would have beat him all the same, Oscar would have lasted longer maybe go the distance but it would have been near shutout.

Cotto isn't any better at 154 as he is at 147. The guy was a career JWW, then WW and only moved up to JMW because he ran out of comp at 147 and got beat out of there by Pac.

 

Yes, JMM who couldn't KO Pac in previous fights at their prime weights would suddenly KO Pac when he got bloated. Of course it has nothing to do with the fact that Pac fought JMM under Heredia and Floyd fought a fat JMM. Yep, no irrational bias logic there at all.

Cotto would have been ****ed at ANY weight. And dont tell me Pac would lose because he wouldn't even fight him at this weight, you remember what Floyd did to JMM on the weigh in right? That to say Floyd would have lost at 145 hence why he cheated and came in at 147? This supposed small WW?

 

Are joking? Oscar looked like a malnourished crackhead went he fought Pacquaio.

Pac even had a weight advantage man. Get outta here with that ****. You Pac fans will go to great length not to discredit him I see. Im a Floyd supporter and even I said he should have just fought Canelo at 154. Canelo still had a 15 lb weight advantage but still it would have been a better win.

Pacquiao fans cant do that. Pac could fight Jesus at a 140 lb catchweight and you would still find a way to make it seem legit.

 

I don't see why people get so emotional over Pacquiao (Mayweather as well)

Simple logic says that Hoya at JMW coming off a dominate KO over a top rated JMW Champ is a harder fight than Hoya coming off a loss and bad showing at a weight he hasn't been at in almost 10 years

Or that fighting Mosley coming off one of the most high profile wins of his career is harder than fighting Mosley coming off a loss and draw

Hell Marquez beat Pacquiao a year before the Mayweather fight and 2 years after in 4 fights Pacquiao has never legitimately beat Marquez but he beats him in 09

Even Cotto at 145 with no trainer coming off one possibly two losses one by KO compared to 154 with one of the best trainers coming off three straight KO wins. CLEARLY there is a reason Pacquiao wouldn't fight Mosley until he lost or refused to fight Cotto at 150+ even after beating him.

 

Go watch the fight and tell me whats different? Its still the same old Oscar who plodded forward with hands up but open right down the middle. How would Pac's angles and punches not work anymore? Are you blind? lol. And you dumb ****, Oscar was the WW, he was the one who wanted to fight at WW, Pac was a LW, he made Pac climb up from LW to WW. If Pac wanted an advantage he would have brought ODLH down to 135, or at least meet in the middle at 140, instead he jumped to weight classes and destroyed ODLH whilst being a huge underdog.

 

The catchweight was 144. He came in 146. AND NEVER REHYDRATES because he doesnt cut weight.

He was 150 for the weigh in against Canelo and 150 on fight night. Dont make excuses. Floyd didnt have a huge weight advantage on Marquez.

But Pac still got that ass rocked by a Marquez who tested clean right after the fight.

 

*****satsch

To much of this not good for you

Floyd: Eat my ****.

*****s: OK

 

Dude, Oscar was slow as hell in the Pac fight. He looked skinny and unfed. He didnt even rehydrate well. He had no movement at all.

Oscar looked fast against Floyd. Because you know.. that was his normal weight.