The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Where did you get "official" PPV buys from. None of Manny's supposed sells are fact. Official numbers have never been released.

 

Has Manny even been tested yet for this fight?

 

Void did not need anyone to have a special test until Pac stopped Cotto..........at least Pac is taking the tests, something that Ward refuses to do...........

 

Blood testing wasn't always there, where the hell are you coming up with this dumbass?. Everyone following the negotiations leading towards this fight were shocked and surprised by that demand as it was randomly brought up. Even Mayweather was publicly questioned about it over and over to explain publicly what that demand really was and how those testings worked, if that wasn't the case why the hell would it be brought it numerous times?. Why would Mayweather constantly bring up the testing demand over and over and explaining the procedures if it was always there?. I don't care what Mayweather did and when he backed off for 14 days or 14 months for all I care, he brought up the testing randomly and that's what ruined the fight. Somehow it didn't seem necessary to test Marquez when he fought him yet Pacquiao was worth testing all of a sudden.

You're the idiot because you have no idea what you're talking about, are you a new troll trying to enter this debate?. If so, I suggest you at least type English properly to show some relevance because with that way of pathetic thinking you need anything that could help make you look worthwhile.

 

So Mayweather thinking Pacquiao is a cheater and publicly stating that he believes he's a cheater and wants testing to be proven otherwise isn't a way for him to "punk" Pacquiao, right?

And you expect Pacquiao to bow down to that despite his position at the time and all the hype he was getting?. Here's a lesson in history, it was Pacquiao who was rated P4P#1 at the time and it was Pacquiao who was in the driver's seat. Mayweather was coming off 2 years of retirement and a win over Marquez which was overlooked as a serious fight anyway.

Years before Mayweather opened his mouth but no one cared to contribute or popularize their cause, correct?. Mayweather comes along and uses that, being in the popular position he was in, made their jobs easier. No one cared about their cause prior to that and almost everyone don't even know about it. If you ask the average person casually following boxing out there who's behind these testing the first thing they'll say is "Mayweather". That response right there is completely baseless and not even important in this discussion. There have been countless reports of extra testing in the past, no one gave a damn about them because no big name in the sport demanded them till Mayweather decided to. Everything, whether in the sport or out of it, is a matter of hype and attention by someone overly followed and noticed. If someone unknown requests something important, no one will care, if someone famous does, everyone will follow. Mayweather decided to start this campaign when Pacquiao became an option and the rest is history.

Mayweather did the same. Didn't he walk away because his list of demands were frowned upon and laughed at?. If he really wanted it he would have negotiated the same way he did for his 40 fights prior to when Pacquiao became an option.

 

Again, you continue to use this #1 P4P ranking (and even that is debatable) as some magic shield for every Pacquiao action. A fictional title doesn't give Pac a free pass on his hypocrisy.

I pointed out earlier in this very thread that Bob Arum had repeatedly criticized and trashed ('no heart', 'coward', 'will be broke', 'ignorant') Mayweather personally and professionally, AND fugged PBF out of money when Mayweather was the UNQUESTIONED #1 P4P fighter in the world.

YOU dismissed that as:

Yet you don't even apply YOUR OWN LOGIC to Pacquaio. If I followed your logic to its natural conclusion, Mayweather should get a pass too, as he is also a promoter.

And in spite of all that, Mayweather STILL came to the table to hammer out the particulars for this fight. In your example above, so did Leonard for Hearns.

But here you are, defending Pac for walking away due to tactics you YOURSELF said are standard in boxing.

You don't see the hypocrisy in your own argument, Scar?

So, what is your point here?

Mayweather brought attention to a cause that many of the most respected boxing medical professionals (and fighters, for that matter) had been advocating. We all agree there. But let's not act like this was some out of his arse thing that NO ONE had thought about. Portraying it that way is what I object to.

And you know what? Boxing is moving towards a better place BECAUSE of it. Mayweather used his power and voice within the sport to actually HELP the sport. Even Mayweather haters should concede that point.

IMO, if you believe the #1 P4P fighter is some magical position, then that is how that fighter SHOULD be using that power, not just to sell PPVs (of which you get fugged out of by your promoter), win elections, or sell wack movies/albums.

Pac changed the way he negotiated for Rios in the same fashion. Do you hold him to the same standard or not?

 

He didn't think his other opponents were juicing. Duh.

Is it also your position that Pac now needs 'special requirements to do his job' against Rios?

Same question I've asked you before: If that is true, then why is Team Pac doing the 'unnecessary' and more 'obtrusive' VADA testing instead of just implementing his own recommended testing protocols?

Team Pac does not even hold this bogus position anymore. Why are you still clinging to it?

And Mayweather called his bluff and accepted. The end.

 

Couldve taken the test 4 years ago and nobody would be able to question then either.

Passing a test in the future that you refused in the past doesnt do anything for the past.

An the part about wanting the test this time is fine. If he believes his opponent to be suspect then its ok to ask for random testing.

 

Still no details about testing stipulations and cutoff date. What a sham. This is a publicity stunt is all. PEDcquiao probably had one test two months ago.

 

How was it unnecessary? If he truly believed pac was suspect then he should demand testing.

If you are not dirty the easy thing to do is take the test.

 

No longer has to fight Mayweather

 

i am a fan of both but pac walking away is inexcusable. i do not know how any rational person cannot see who's fault it was the fight never happened. He got bad advice and now his name has been damaged. Given that he is now taking the test, there is absolutely no argument that can be made for not doing it in 2009.

 

and know what crazy??....this could be true

 

Very true pac dropped the ball big time!

I think he realizes too that Mayweather will go down as the best fighter of this generation. maybe he doesnt give a damn at all but i dont believe that. He still brings up how he wants that fight. him doing testing now his a good step but lots of people (me inculded) cant forgive him not mking the fight and for doing it 3 years later i think hurts his reputation more.

 

since FLoyd plays the bad guy it is easy to blame him but unfortunately for Pac history will look badly upon him . . . not to mention his bank account