The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

He fough a hell of a fight against Provo.
Great chin.
Fantastic hands -- accuracy, speed, combos.
To get nailed like that and comeback the way he did.
He showed more heart than any other boxer today.
If Pac got nailed like that he might not wake up.

 

******.:hat

 

Just read iron champs response ,great response but the Winky Wright fight didn't just break down over money ..This is what actually happens .And funny how people called Manny's weight limit demand rediculous but I wonder where they got that from ..
Found this


Wright-Mayweather bout is off as talks break down

It's back to the drawing board for St. Petersburg's Winky Wright as negotiations to fight 140-pound champion Floyd Mayweather fell apart Thursday morning at a meeting in Las Vegas.

"As of right now, it's no deal - they changed the money on me at the last second," said promoter Gary Shaw, who said he was close to finalizing the fight when he walked into Top Rank and Bob Arum's office Thursday.

But within seconds, he said, the deal evaporated.

"I walked in, I told him: "I believe we have a deal,' " Shaw said. "And Bob said, "so it's a deal - 55-45 (money split)'.

"I said, "Bob, that was never, ever discussed, no deal' and that was that."

The day before, Shaw said he and Arum had agreed to a 50-50 purse split as well as other requests from Mayweather's camp. He added that Wright adviser Jim Wilkes and Don King, who has an option on Wright's next fight, agreed as well.

According to Shaw, however, Arum said he did not remember that conversation. Arum was unavailable for comment.

Shaw and Arum were in Las Vegas to promote the Oct. 8 rematch between Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo. Shaw promotes Corrales; Arum promotes Castillo.

"There were requests made by Floyd Mayweather, we laid it out and I think they were fair requests," Arum told maxboxing.com. "Gary rejected them, so there's no fight. We have to sit with Floyd and we'll figure out (what we do next). Maybe (Antonio) Margarito. It's unfortunate as far as the Winky Wright fight, but it's not going to happen."

While Shaw said he agreed with just about all of the demands from the Mayweather team, principally regarding weight, he doesn't think the Detroit fighter, aformer Olympian, was behind the breakdown.

"I think it's Arum," Shaw said. "When Floyd normally calls someone out, he's serious about fighting them."

Mayweather, one of the sport's most vocal stars, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal Sunday that he was interested in fighting Wright, and Shaw wasted no time calling his bluff.

The next morning, he was in the Top Rank offices working on a deal.

"Remember, Floyd called Winky out; Winky didn't call Floyd out," Shaw said. "We were even willing to come down in weight to 154."

Because Wright, who prefers to fight at 160, could probably put on as many as 15 pounds between the weigh-in (the day before) and the fight and enter the ring as high as 165-170, Mayweather's camp requested a morning-of-the-fight weigh-in. That included a stipulation that Wright couldn't go more than eight pounds above the limit.

The undefeated Mayweather, who started his career at 130 and weighs 140 pounds, would be at a significant size disadvantage for the fight.

Wright (49-3, 25 knockouts) is still scheduled to fight Nov. 19 on HBO, provided Shaw can find a suitable opponent in the sparse middleweight field.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/22/Sports/Wright_Mayweather_bou.shtml





Split of prize money holding up bout

Promoters Gary Shaw and Bob Arum were in Beverly Hills on Thursday afternoon to officially announce the Oct. 8 rematch between Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo.

But as that deal was finalized, a proposed Nov. 12 bout between Winky Wright and Floyd Mayweather fell apart as the two met at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

"M-O-N-E-Y," stated Shaw in spelling out the reason why this bout between two of the premier prizefighters in the world will not be taking place. "I thought we had a deal. I spoke with Don King, King was on board, Jim Wilkes was on board, Winky Wright was on board. We agreed to 154 pounds, we agreed to another morning weight because they were concerned about the weight -- Winky couldn't gain more than eight pounds above 154."

With all of Winky's representatives (including King, who holds an option on Wright after his victory over Felix Trinidad in May) in agreement, Shaw thought he would be signing contracts by the end of the week.

"When I was in Arum's office he talked about different splits," recalled Shaw, who said at that time the numbers he was told differed from the ones he had agreed to. "I started to yell, I said, 'It's gotta be 50-50.' He said, 'All right, all right. Why are you yelling? I'm just the messenger. Come back, we'll do the deal.' I walked downstairs here at the Beverly Hills Hotel, I said, 'We have a deal?' He looked at me and said, '55-45.' I said, 'No, 50-50. He said, 'There's no deal.' "

Arum confirmed that Wright-Mayweather is dead as of now.

"There were requests made by Floyd Mayweather, we laid it out and I think they were fair requests," said the veteran promoter. "Gary rejected them, so there's no fight. We have to sit with Floyd and we'll figure out [what we do next].

"Maybe [Antonio] Margarito. It's unfortunate as far as the Winky Wright fight, but it's not going to happen."

While Mayweather retains his Nov. 12 date on HBO Pay-Per-View, Wright has a date set aside for him the following week on HBO.

Did Mayweather and Arum come to the realization that in facing the much bigger Wright, that they were biting off more than even the "Pretty Boy" could chew?

"Floyd's been talking a lot of trash, saying he's going to knock Winky out; he told Kevin Iole he wants to fight," said Shaw. "He wanted the fight on Sunday. On Monday I went to Top Rank's office personally. My feeling is that Floyd never wanted the fight. He was just talking smack."

As Shaw and Arum gave their sides of the story after the Corrales-Castillo press conference, just outside the ballroom where it was held, Margarito's manager Sergio Diaz was meeting with Top Rank's VP, Todd DuBoef, about his fighter's future -- which doesn't seem to include Mayweather.

"Right now we just met with Todd and we're looking at October 1st," he explained to MaxBoxing. "The date is there, the opponent we still don't know. They've been mentioning Joshua Clottey, but Showtime doesn't know if they want to accept that opponent."

As for a bout with Mayweather?

"Mayweather has mentioned that he'd rather jump to 154 and fight Winky Wright than fight Margarito," Diaz said. "He says it's a better loss to lose against Winky Wright than it is to Antonio."

Diaz doesn't have much hope that even with the Wright fight not happening, that a bout between Margarito and Mayweather comes to fruition.

"No, not at all," he admitted. "To tell you the truth, at the beginning I was, we were hopeful it would happen. But now, it's already behind me."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2113721


SOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Looks like Money May, a 140-lber at the time, called out the MW champ for a fight at 154... with a morning of the fight weigh-in and restrictions on how much he can rehydrate to (how ironic, Roger says hello :lol1. Then last minute priced himself out and STILL wouldn't fight Margarito.

What say you?

 

Manny fought DLH at ww then hatton at lightweight then cotto at ww which was his last ko. then he fought
clottey never been ko`d,
margarito who was huge and had only been ko`d once,
mosely never been ko`d,
marquez never ko`d,
bradley never ko`d
rios NEVER KO`D!!!!

in mannys 10 fights before going up to fight DLH his record was 9-1 6 ko`s with only one of those coming before the 6th round against ligtweights and featherweights!!! oh wait let me guess,he started using steroids before the DLH and stopped after the Cotto fight right?

 

total
you need some help kid..

total ignorance and i would be shocked if you cant really see how dumb you sound.
you just picked some top 5-10 fighters around his weight class but you are such a ill-informed
hater you didnt realize the ONLY one you could make a case for is winky.

and winky was WAY bigger than him when that fight was possible.

so quick PW had NO top wins and wasnt even a WW

Tszye team was offered the fight but went in another direction, that was after floyd called him out a few tome.
so according you guys he ducked floyd, or does it only apply to floyd ?

Margo, this is the funniest one. all he was looking for was the payday, get a clue, NOT a single good win. he hadnt fought
anyone never mind beat anyone. 20/20 he did bear SM but that meant nothing untul recently and still means little. we
dont even have to mention that arum wanted options on floyds next 4 fights..

SM was new to boxing and had the worst stamina ever with no real boxing skill. he had some talenthe was born with
but not a lick of skill

Cotto. floyd wanted that fight when he was still with arum but arum wasnt having any cause cotto was gonna be his cash cow,
then floyd wanted it after the gatti fight,, but guess what, yes arum said he wasnt ready.. in reality arum wasnt ready to lose his
futre cash cow.

Pacman. you guys wont stop the nonsense. floyd OFFERED him the fight a couple times. how can ones logic be the fighter
that turned the fight down be the one being ducked ? how is that even possible ?

ok i have laid out exactly how the history played out, yet you want to chang history but it CANNOT be chanfed..

I would love to hear ANY facts or even understandable curumstances that conflict ANY thing i laid out for you.
crickets i qurantee..

 

It's the information age.

You guys would be calling Ray Robinson a supreme ducker if the internet existed in his time.

Keeping up with the sport on such an epic level that we fans can nowadays leads to the ability to talk nonstop nonsense about anything and everything...

You judge a fighter by what they achieve, not what you think they should have done. And Floyd is the best of his era for a reason; he achieved enough to go down as such.

 

:good

 

AT A CATCHWEIGHT!!:happy
hahaha i was estatic when that hypocrite called the kid out a weight he couldnt possibly make after all his bull**** "i fight fighters at their best weight"

and then the amazing cop out of .."well,well..he offered it!"

 

I was glad canelo only stood up at the weigh in to step on the scale...he sat in a chair on stage the whole time.

That was good because it instantly killed ANY credibility floyd could have earned before the fight even started.

 

didn't know we had NASir Jones posting here

 

I know this issue is a week old and I'm really not trying to make any judgements on how Mayweather spends his cash, but I really cant help but ask the question. Mayweather understands the importance of Defense, his style is predicated on it, so why would he bet against a great defense in Seattle as opposed to a great offense in Denver. Wouldn't that be like him betting against himself if he were fighting Pacquiao? I know that's far fetched, but I find it hard to believe he could be that irresponsible to first bet that amount of money on something that's not close to a sure thing (nothing is), and if he did, not to bet on DEFENSE.

 

When you get scared by an Asian midget you do crazy stuff like call yourself a coward or bet bet 10 millions on a offensive team when you should have bet on an defensive team. You literally get mind fock .

 

@Prelude

I wasn't really trying to ge there, I personally don't care what Mayweather does with his money, I just find that if the rumor that he bet 10 mil on the Offensive team (Denver), then that's a bit irresponsible on his part. Especially when he understands the science and importance of defense in sports, as well as offense.

Don't really think he fears Pacquiao, but there certainly has been some apprehensiveness on his part throughout the failed negotiations. But by that same token the same could be said about Pacquiao's team.

 

He secretly wishes he was an offensive styled fighter (as all defensive specialist do).

 

Well he tried and then chop chop put him on ***** Street