The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

That's a fact and still still ducking him ! First it was drug testing now it's the promoters what's next he must renounce the Phillipines

 

Very cool story man. Do yourself a favor and go pull a David Carradine. Your garbage, nonsensical posts won't be missed here whatsoever.

And take your girlfriend boxing_master with you as well. You're an idiotic poster who's nothing more than an internet tough guy.

 

First off thanks to those who've appreciated my contribution towards this discussion.

Not sure about the Nas comment was about Techniqs but I'll take it.

Programer,

As you may have noticed I didn't name call or criticize anybody to get my point across so why don't we stick to that precedent.

If you recall, the De la Hoya fight took place at 154. Everything from the ring size to the brand of gloves was to Oscar's specifications. It was Floyd's first attempt at 154 a weight he didn't feel too comfortable with at that time given the fact that he immediately reverted back to 147 following the bout. Floyd has had brittle hands throughout his entire career and after the Hatton fight he decided to retire and give his body a rest.

Should it not be? This is why he retired after the Hatton fight. He needed the rest.

He was with TOP Rank and then he left to branch out on his own and if you read my post you will see that financially it was the smarter move. His decision NOT to fight Margarito had everything to do with the fact that if he did it would have meant extending his contract with TOP RANK. Given what Arum had in store for him he decided that it was in his best interests to get away from the TOP RANK stable.

atsch

Everybody wanted a De la Hoya fight; even Pac. In fact Pacquaio fighting Oscar De la Hoya helped raise his national profile giving him mainstream exposure. His decision to sever his ties with Top Rank had less to do with a fear of losing to any of those guys and more to do with not entering another long term deal with Top Rank that would restrict his ability to make fights and earn more money. At that time there was no bigger payday around. Oscar had just beaten Mayorga and had a tune up with Steve Forbes. He was still relevant to boxing.

It doesn't work like that. But lets entertain that idea for a second; Bob Arum wanted to give Mayweather $7 million for Cotto. Mayweather fought Cotto after Cotto was out of the Top Rank Stable. Do you remember what his purse was? Exactly.

Martinez was still fighting boxing after dark after the Hatton fight; he hadn't yet emerged on the scene as a credible contender. Margo and Cotto were Top Rank. Williams was still coming up. Funny you didn't mention Mosley.

Floyd is doing the same. Sometimes a fight just doesn't come off.

Enlighten me who he avoided and what he could have done to make the fight happen.

 

you think he chose baldi ove marg cause he was scared, phukin idiot.
he said he would had accept if marg ever gets title OR is arum dropped the options stipulation. so marg is arums fault

prime ssm declibed
prime ODH was too busy for pretty boy
winy priced himself out
pw wast even in his weight class
paq turned it down.
cotto arum wasnt feeling in.
kostay went different direction.

who did he really come anywhere close to ducking ?
huh ?

go head try arguing ANY of those but, please come with facts or contributing factors. dont come back with nothing but hated opinions.

i would ONE of you to come with anything real that would HINT floyd "ducked' anyone

 

Man Floyd's got some gullible fans I'll say that about him. You go on believing he's broke cause we know you'll help it out by paying 59 bucks to watch him spar and the best part is that he's so damn smart that he's going to make you feel good about it. hahha That's priceless.

 

you are just as big of a hypocrite as he is to let pac get away with it then bring up this ****. go **** yourself hater.

 

floyd couldnt had been more accurate, prize fighters are fighting for MONEY
and if he wasted his time fighting marg they woud NOT be fighting to prove who the best was.

the world knew and still knows who the best is and was, yes Floyd.
fighting marg had no relevance on who the best was. beating marg DID nothing for floyd. say if there was 1 min in marg career that he was literally the top fighter in any div then it would had been porrible.

you guys really cant diffenetiate between floyd making fun of the haters and when he is being serious. i feel bad for people to clouded and dumdfounded by the facts its not even feeling legit

 

Btw, SJ I have no idea what you do for a living, but I've owed a financial planning business for over 20 years, and I have a business/economics degree, which I obtained in 1990, so I think I know how to provide advice in this area.

All most of these boxers had to do to secure their financial future was investment in an annuities, which is essentially like buying a pension. In addition to preventing you from getting access to your money for a predetermined amount of time. It's also creditor proof, so even if you go bankrupt you still get to keep it.

As for Floyd, if he's had any kind of decent financial advice he's set for generations to come.

 

Who said Floyd was broke?

Apparently, you have a reading comprehension problem too.

Repeating: what u as a fan want to see happen does not always line up with the goals of the man who has to go in the ring and actually fight.

Deal with it.

 

I'm dealing with it fine, I'm just voicing my opinion, same as you. I thought this was a boxing forum and one of the topics included which fights you'd like to watch. But apparently most people with fcuk all knowledge of finance want to focus on the economics of the business instead.

Seems like the sport dying when the economics of a particular fighter becomes the most important topic of a forum. Use to be you'd dream of fights, most of them would happen and he'd wait with anticipation and enjoy the build up of a fight. When the fight took place you would take about it for days, weeks, months. Sometime it would seem like the world stopped just to watch the fight.


Now the topic is why fights aren't happening and who should be getting paid what, and who's to blame for fights not happening.

 

Not quite bored enough to count the titles, but I have noticed that whereas previously there was a decent balance between whining about Pacquiao and Mayweather, recently all the threads seem to be about Floyd.

 

he would rather fight khan than pac. this is disgraceful atsch

 

Good Post. I should add that when a 140-lber calls out a 160-lber in a fight that technically the public hasn't called for due to the weight disparity it's a result of a genuine desire to get in the ring with that said opponent. Mayweather being a TOP Rank fighter didn't have final say as to whether a fight takes place or not. Arum does. Arum priced out of the fight. It's the reason why just about every fighter at a post fight interview says the same thing when pressed for future opponents; Ask my promoter!

He didn't fight Margarito because that fight came with strings; it would extend his contract with Top Rank which he no longer wanted since Arum flatly refused a De la Hoya fight.

I've been on ESB since 2002, I don't troll. Period. What I said was true; He went after the tough challenges, they just didn't materialize for one reason or another. The amount of money for a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight is enormous but both sides have been at fault for this fight not coming off; this isn't just Floyd's fault.

It was $8,000,001.

The Margarito fight at the time it was offered would have been Floyd's highest purse to date. There is a reason for that; it's meant to keep him at Top Rank. Arum would've had options on his next 3 fights and this would have meant no De la Hoya which Floyd desperately wanted.

 

What's even more disgraceful is that about 1/2 the forum will be supporting this course of action and defending Floyd's choice and acting like they're his personal financial advisor, that's what's truly bizarre.