The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

You make Floyd sound more like an ostrich, oh wise guru.

 

Pac is obviously ranked higher by anybody legitimate even those that dont like him, he has gone through more divisions and has won more title and has beaten opponents more distructivly , it is without question. He has also won a good chunk more fights than mayweather,

Floyds record is pretty because he picks and chooses fights once a year on average and all that other stuff.

Look at guys who are around the same amount of time as him, like Wlad , Pac and others they have about 60 fights by now.

Also the drug testing was one of many many excuses not to make the fights, Floyd has put up roadblock after roadblock that even have the USA tv networks and the former fighters mostly American admitting that he ducked the Philipino.

 

i am feeling a lot of ***** butthurt around this thread...

back in *****tard HQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br2_22e2RoU

a plan is being formulated....

 

Doesnt matter how many titles/belts/divisions. With 4 belts per class and paper champions everywhere that's not a notable accomplishment anymore. You have to go by the level of competition, which is about the same.

Floyd has done better. But they are both overrated regardless and will never be among the all time greats, no matter how much the media hypes them up

 

Pac has passed over 10 divisions in his career. That is very notable especially at such a high level.

I do take your points about paper titles but they both won very legitimate titles also.

Pac has fought better opponents though and that is without questions !!

They both have fought the same opponents up at welterweight though, however pac was a former professional 112 pound champ and hes fighting guys as far as 150 !!

Floyd would have to go to middle and 68 to top that paper title or not- but he wont do it, because the risk is too much.

And here lies the sad part, Mayweather would rather protect the record than take the risk, I firmly believe he could beat the champs in a 6th division , he can today beat all thiose middleweights , but he wont dare do it.

Too much risk.

And that the difference between mayweather and Pac,

also the difference between mayweather hearns or mayweather de la hoya

Because they took that exdra risk, fought those fights were they were the midget in the ring.

Floyd simply wont do that.

 

72 *****'s. lol.

Look, you can't be the best of your time period if you duck and dodge and avoid all meaningful challenges for the most part. The fighter himself in this case admits he's all business and takes little risk, case closed.

The other guy took plenty of risks and faced crazy competition. It's not even a competition on who has the better legacy.

I don't understand the *****'s.

 

This....thread closed

 

Thread closed..

 

While I would usually ask for one's definition of ATG before trying to answer the question of who belongs in the club, in this case, that's hardly necessary.


Anyone who makes the p4p top 100 list would be a lock.

And since both Floyd and Pac have clearly cracked that list, they are both ATGs. The only question left to answer is where they'll end up rankwise on this list, and we won't know that until both have retired (For keeps, Floyd !)

Probably a decade or so after they retire.

 

no

 

You judge a fighter by who they fought and how those fights played out.

You don't judge them based on who they didn't fight.

So perhaps Floyd could have faced better opposition, but he is still the greatest of the era based on who he did fight and the performances in those fights.

 

The trainer thing probably makes this a no go right now but people are saying they could see Floyd going after Cotto if he were to win the MW title. Could you see Pac doing it too? That would be a nice stamp on his legacy and its easier to do with the Top Rank thing

 

not a chance. Pacquiao wants none above 145

 

It doesn't matter , PAC still has accomplished more than Floyd .

Floyd is a notoriously known ducker and boxing fans will never forget that nor ignore it .

That will always hurt and affect his legacy as you can see by the poll results .

 

Actually, Smoak, you do.


If there weren't any more serious challenges, if they'd taken on all serious opposition of their era, then what you say might be true.

Wlad gets ridiculed for his resume, but he has fought all the best of his time. You can only fight your contemporaries.

Ali gave everbody a crack at him. As did SRL.

Floyd, while undeniably an ATG, could have been even greater had he faced all of the serious challenges who were there during his time.

Very possibly. He has a decent case, but it's far from unanimous.