The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    difference is duckweather is not gonna "make" manny manny was already hitting 1 mill ppv:deal and was a big star

    if manny was comming up that would be differnt but it was manny holding the p4p 1 spot while mayweather was on holiday ducking fights
     
  2. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao is faster than Floyd. but he's not quicker to the punch.

    LOL. Because Floyd is a drained Oscar at 147. Fvck outta here man. Pac is like Khan. He'll throw 5 punches and land 1, and that's maybe. Floyd would counter him all night. Right hand lead after right hand lead. Floyd isn't Oscar. JMM isn't Oscar. Bradley isn't Oscar. Rios at 147, was Oscar at 147. Slow, plodding around trying to catch the faster guy.

    PBF is just on a different level.
     
  3. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's still a threat, because, he is still one of the top 5 fighters at welter. His hand and foot speed, from a southpaw stance, would be a puzzle initially. Floyd would probably figure out the timing and start taking over w/in the first 5 rounds, though. Risky fight, but, very winnable, for a fighter of Floyd's caliber. Manny would have a TON of problems with Floyd's hand/foot speed, movement, defense and adaptability. I don't think it would take him long to get discouraged.
     
  4. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And the second Floyd came back, he dismantled a man, Pacquiao can't beat convincingly to this day.

    Manny would be the B side, so you concede to the rules.

    It's Mayweather-Pacquiao. Not Pacquiao-Mayweather :lol:

    Floyd aint duck nobody . :deal
     
  5. Brian

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    Like Paulie said in the past, Cotto is tougher style matchup for Floyd than Pacquiao.

    It would be extremely difficult to beat Mayweather without a jab. History has shown that.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a sport with fighters, its very rare that someone is scared of another in the classical sense, as in "omg I don't want to get beat up". Floyd does fear losing though and as you mentioned, even if Pac only has that 25% chance of winning, that 25% may still be too much for Floyd in his risk/reward ratio calculation.

    Explain this:
    - Why did he bring up the drug testing? Sure its all fine now cos its normal, but back then it was him who first brought it up. If you see some huge muscled up guy, you assume he's on steroids because that chit looks so supernatural, he must be on drugs to achieve that. Everything points to that from Floyds pov, he asks "how does an ordinary fighter become extra-ordinary", "he must be on drugs", "I'm worried about my health", "you guys dont pay my bills", "what if I lose", "being a boxer is like being a cop, 1 shot you're dead" etc and lots more. And then of course there is the outright accusation by his trainers and his father, "no way I'm letting him fight my son", "he's on a-side meth, that chit allowed filipinos to take bullets", "I fear for my sons life".

    All those things above, justified or not stem from fear. Now its not the case of whether Pac was on drugs or not cos Floyd's camp dont know that, the point is they were scared of what they saw.

    If Pac was indeed on steroids, Floyd & camp was scared of a man that was so good he was on steroids.

    If Pac was NOT on steroids, Floyd & camp was scared of a man that was not on steroids.

    Either way, they were scared.

    Before *****s come up with Pac's excuses, I don't care. Yes Arum didn't want the fight, he didn't want to risk his cash cow. Yes Pac wasn't that keen either. Doesn't change the above.
     
  7. Pimp C

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    Pac is not faster and it would be apparent from the opening bell. Pbf has better reflexes and would get off first beating Pac to the punch all night long. He also has better timing. If you think Pac is beating pbf to the punch then you're even dumber than I thought. You're so ridiculous good defense beats good offense. Pbf would reduce pacs workrate and he would have a career low connect percentage in route to a boxing lesson.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :deal
    You're not beating pbf without a jab. Cotto is a harder fight for pbf than Pac would be.
     
  9. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo was exposed against Gomez and Trout prior to fighting Floyd, which most objective boxing fans saw. He didn't lose those fights, but it showed very clearly that he has serious problems against decent boxer-type opponents. That's because at his heart Canelo is basically a quasi-aggressive counterpuncher. When he gets obvious openings to counter(like the Angulo fight or the Cintron fight), he'll throw a solid number of punches and look good. A little bit of movement and a decent jab and he doesn't let those hands go nearly as often and struggles. He also is not fast on his feet at all or great defensively. So logically looking at those fights and his style, the outcome of his fight against Floyd(arguably the best pure boxer) was obvious. And since then, Lara dominated Canelo's best win in Trout. Don't get me wrong, Canelo is still one of the best fighters at 154, but style-wise, he was not a significant threat to Floyd.
     
  10. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    It's personal between Floyd and Arum/Pacquiao. It wasn't always this way, but that's what it is now. Lawsuits, Hitler comparisons, constantly dragging Mayweather's name through the mud BUT then want him to award you with a massive payday when he doesn't have to.

    There was a 50/50 split with OSDT FOR BOTH FIGHTERS on the table. Pacquiao turned it down.

    There was a $40 million offer on the table. Pacquiao turned it down.

    but Floyd is scared. :roll:
     
  11. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    didn't Arum imply they already have the JMM 5 fight lined up?
     
  12. boxing_master

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    i think your taking this way to seriously telling me to kill myself :lol: is this how much you love ducky ?
     
  13. sabor

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    Health comes first.
     
  14. Imperial1

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    This just goes to show how insecure Floyd is ,I mean the hitler comparison and the remarks are nothing compare to the racist crap Floyd has said about manny and they way he drug Manny's name through the mud with the steroids accusations that forced him to take Floyd to court ..

    The difference is after all this manny would still be willing to fight Floyd but on the flip side you get "I will never work with Arum again he hurt my feelings ":lol:



    Floyd will also say well he had his chance ..I'm looking to fight a young champ .

    That's when you will hear about Amir Khan again.. Floyd will continue to duck this fight until he has no other options left .
     
  15. VBOX

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    Manny needs to put a scope up his ass to test for new PED's.
     
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