The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Canelo had a chance Maidana has a chance, nobody is going to out box him so fighting knockout artist's makes sense.

 

You are ******ed like most Mayweather fans in this thread if you think that Mayweather's winover Ortiz, Guerrero and Maidana is greater than Pacquiao's win over Barrera, Morales and Marquez.

Make a poll if you like.

 

Well it's pretty obvious what the best is. Alvarez was the top rated fighter and it's good win for Mayweather's legacy as Alvarez was a legit 154lber, but yet we all knew Alvarez's chances were damn tiny. I've never seen polls so one sided when it came to prediction threads, which were in Mayweather's favour.

It doesn't matter about what 'number' they are in the division if the division itself is rather weak - that is a key point.

 

He is a marketing genius

 

What would Alvarez chances be against Pacquiao? Pac is better than Floyd right? Would Manny need a rematch or two?

 

Boxing in general is pretty weak. Mayweather fights in the wrong era, and that is really what the problem is. The fact you have a 49 year old unified champion at light heavyweight should tell you everything about the state of boxing. That "championship fight" was a disgrace to be honest.

In any of the golden eras, these older fighters wouldn't be able to hold on as long as they are, they would be retired. There is a lack of boxing talent and many boxers seem to be a bit light on the fundamentals. Just IMO.


In short, I'll say my opinion again: Make sure you watch Floyd and Manny while you can, because once they are gone, I can assure you people will realize how special and rare fighters of this caliber are.

 

But you can only fight who is there. You say he should fight the best, but then you turn around and also say that the best aren't good enough. If person A and person B are the top two in their fields, and person A is considered much better than person B, most people would look at that as a positive mark on person A. You have taken the cynical viewpoint.

 

What it tells us is that the guys who are master boxers continue to dominate the sport, which makes sense when considering the sport is called "boxing"

 

I don't get what any off this has to do with what I said there's nothing wrong with rematches when needed but using the guise that he was fighting the best so it's ok is dumb if the guys your rematching are losing to "journeymen" level fighters before hand. You bring up Mayweather imo beating Baldomir who is "journeymen level" who was 7 years unbeaten and undisputed Champ is better than beating Morales who just lost to Raheem and lost 5 fights in a row after Pac I. Think about it like this how much credit would a guy like Mayweather get for fighting the loser of Pacquiao-Bradley II then the loser of Cotto-Martinez then the loser of Alvarez-Lara, I wouldn't give credit for that

 

Floyd's never encountered anyone like Camacho, just wait till Whitaker gets his hands on him at 135/140/147.:deal

Pac KO's Gomez eh!

OK Then, pick any era & hightlight the division that Floyd is gonna dominate, will he be just a titleist or undisputed in said division, will he adopt the policy of snatching a title albeit making him the weaker of the 2 division champions and will he flee said division when unification is put on the table.

 

I would have to somewhat disagree. Archie Moore was very accomplished at the age of 48. There is always going to be outliers. You can't use outliers to define the population. There isn't a bunch of guys in their late 40's having success in the sport.

 

I don't give a **** how much of a "master" you are. At 49 years old, a 26 year old worth their salt should kick your ass, period. The reason why Hopkins the "master" can get away with it, is because the "pupils" don't have the boxing skill to begin with to push his old ass. It's absolutely ridiculous to be honest. Nobody can press a 49 year old man? Maybe these young guys should just retire.........

In any competent era, Hopkins would have been dispatched long ago. I don't give a **** how much of a master he is in regard to his boxing knowledge. Age has no mercy, feet and hands slow down, stamina and recovery decline. That is a fact of life.

 

People will pay to watch excellence put on display. I do. It's always an interesting thing to see these fighters come off of a career win then get into the ring with Floyd and for a while, be made to look like they are from their local YMCA. This is with everyone. It's crazy to sit and watch that all fight.

 

that was Showtime's way of getting Floyd to fight on their network, and it's also one of the problems of boxing, you get Floyd to fight someone like Guerrero with a shitty undercard and charge people $70 for it, and now GB think that boxing fans are stupid and will make fights like Canelo-Angulo PPV events, even though it's nothing more than a decent regular Showtime event, because they're a pack of greedy pricks

 

Pretty much.

Hopkins is a great fighter, and a freak of nature, but it is also a reflection on the relatively poor era we are in.

Look at the p4p list and look at how many of them are old. Some of it reflects on their excellence, but it also shows how the talent pool overall is not strong.