The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think if you could add Casamayor & Frietas to his SFW resume for Undisputed Title, Tyszu instead of Gatti for the Lineal Title,Pacquiao after Mosley in 10", & Martinez after Cotto in 12" for Undisputed at MW along with what he's already done up until now he'd arguably be Top 10/5 All-Time If he could remain unbeaten. The only real threat imo would be Martinez the rest easy wins, Margarito & Williams didn't really amount to anything in the grand scheme of things and out of them all there the only ones without HOF credentials so they don't really effect one way or another .
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeap, said like a 10 yr old. So why bother doing it anyways! :lol:
     
  3. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he wouldn't because then he would have at least 3 losses on his resume and would have been retired already
     
  4. TheGreenlad

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    so paul williams, but not lara who schooled williams ok?? :nut
     
  5. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Floyd had fought everyone he possibly could at their best and won, he'd be in the top 10 ATGs somewhere with a loose case for GOAT.
     
  6. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    loses to Martinez and Williams at 154. Loses to Golovkin at 154

    barely beats Pacquiao at 147.

    If Lara beats Canelo it will be impressive for Floyd to beat him

    if he beat all the aforementioned IN THEIR PRIMES (impossible now outside of Golovkin), he would be top 30-35

    and for fun if he wanted to fight Hopkins at 160 he would lose to Bernard easily even at 50 years old. Thats not too unbelievable of a matchup considering Duran a former 135er defeated prime Barkley immediately after he KOd Tommy hearns at 160.
     
  7. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    where did you get that info from floyd?you should know by now that you cant trust what floyd comes up with in regards to fighting manny. he is liable to come up with anything as long as the outcome is no fight with pacquiao.
     
  8. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    that info is from schaefer....

    the 40 mil was going to manny....arum would be paid step aside money to stay out of the promotion and for pacs services and be allowed to have TR on the banners.....

    this was the same sort of deal that arum offered them in regards to a donaire/mares fight.....schaefer said they will use the same blueprint arum gave them if pac wants the fight......the official number to arum was not given...its speculation...but it was likely to be no less than 10 million....

    trust what floyd comes up with? have you missed roach saying manny and co walked away from 50/50 over the drug test? or ariza saying arum has been the roadblock? or arum stumbling over himself with excuse after excuse? i guess you missed that stuff huh? i guess its just floyd avoiding the fight right? get real man

    anyways.....

    Mayweather is pretty clear, as clear as it can be. He is not going to be dealing with Arum or Todd or anyone else over there. He doesn’t need them,” Schaefer insisted.

    Instead, what Schaefer and Mayweather want is for Top Rank to “make Pacquiao available” for the fight, and “Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions will take care of everything.”

    “If Arum wants to step aside and let the fight happen, then great,” said Schaefer. “He’s done that to us in the past, where we (at Golden Boy) had to step aside, because we wanted to do a fight and he had the A-side.”

    “Now it’s the other way around. Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are happy to do the fight.”

    Donaire-Mares blueprint

    Schaefer said Golden Boy is willing to follow the blueprint set by Top Rank for the aborted Nonito Donaire-Abner Mares fight last year. In that instance, Arum offered to pay Golden Boy a fee for Mares’ services and put Golden Boy’s logo on promotional materials, but Top Rank will handle all the promotion.

    The Donaire-Mares bout never came to fruition.

    “We are using his blueprint. The same thing he said with Donaire, that Donaire was such a bigger star than Mares,” said Schaefer. “Okay, you know what, we will use your own blueprint.”

    Schaefer said Mayweather was the undisputed “number one star in the sport,” and that he was the “A-side” of the negotiations.

    “We are not looking to cut Arum out. This is not about not paying Bob,” he said. “He can have his Top Rank logo on the banner, no problem. He can have a few seats, no problem.”

    “It’s nothing to do with disrespecting, but if he thinks he’s the driving force here – what (expletive) arrogance does this guy have?” he added.
     
  9. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if floyd had any pride he would pick up the phone and be fair and reasonable, before its too late and he is left with a legacy of being a ducker. everybody knows manny fears nobody but god, thats why he wont get mouthy about fighting floyd,manny would fight the klitschkos, whoever,thats why everybody knows its floyds fault this fight isnt happening.even you.
     
  10. wylan911

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    Not true, Mayweather made the only 2 real attempts to make this fight. All Arum and Pacquiao have done was say what they would do, and call Mayweather scared in the media. No attempts to make the fight. The champ doesn't seek out the challenger, the challenger seeks the champ. It is on Arum and Pacquiao to make the contacts, but have they?? They haven't because it is Arum, that doesn't want it...
     
  11. Code Red

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    If Arum cared about the fans and making Manny the most money he would take his step aside fee and make Manny available to face Mayweather....but he ain't gon do that is he?
     
  12. The Shockmaster

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    did manny not say he was willing to take less? i hear the 'tards say it almost daily when they say "he agreed to testing now and said hes willing to take less"...

    i explained to you that when you look at the offer of 40 mil you consider theres another chunk of money going to arum and arum touches none of mannys 40 mil.....thats also considered "manny money"....because if floyd just said heres 55 mil arum is going to take a chunk

    if you look at revenues from oscar/floyd....canelo/floyd and how much money was given out to the fighters....youd realize that deal floyd offered isnt bad....and is likely somewhere near 60/40

    floyd called....he picked up the phone and manny hung up saying "i want 50/50"....but he had said he was willing to take less right?....the least manny could have done is said "ok while i got you here on the phone lets work something out....lets use this as a starting point"....could have even said "ill take that...but if we do x amount of buys i want this or that"...he did nothing

    stop with your all manny fears no one...floyd is a ducker bull**** man.....look at logic and facts.....you cant dispute what im saying
     
  13. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its a matter of styles .

    What Berto did to Quintana who beat Williams means nothing . Absolutely nothing .


    Its like me saying Cesar Soto who TKOed Castillo who went on to beat Floyd Mayweather would therefore also beat Mayweather just cause of his win over Castillo .

    That's plain ignorance .

    YOU are the true idiot here for even bringing up that weak overused logic .
     
  14. The Shockmaster

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    im not an idiot man....but what you are doing is saying that the best p4p fighter in the world(and reigning for many years)...wouldnt be able to solve a puzzle thats been solved by muchhhhh lesser fighters.....you dismiss that....

    im not just subscribing to the weak theory you are referencing.....believe me i dont.....but its just wishful thinking to belive that pwil has something that floyd cant handle
     
  15. El-blanco

    El-blanco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Paul obliterated Quintana the next fight. Who knows why he lost the first time, but I wouldn't discredit how good he was based on one bad fight. The guy lost TWO times!
     
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