The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

The only guy who had a good chance of beating Mayweather was Paul Williams due to his size, style and volume punching.

Mayweather beats the rest and yes that includes Pacqiauo.

 

lol. based on what. he beats them both fairly easily. no one in this generation beats Floyd.

 

LOL.

140 Prime Cotto would mean a 140 Prime Floyd. There's a reason why Junito didnt want that.

140 Prime Cotto vs 140 Prime Floyd is a shut out.

He beats Pac at every weight. he's all wrong for Pac.


No one in the generation beats him because he's a once in a generation fighter.

 

i know he did...i was at the rematch it was at mohegan sun.....

still though....do we know if quintana could have outboxed him again? we dont....yes the ko was impressive and a great way for paul to avenge the loss.....but over all of the rounds we saw quintana outboxed the guy.....what it means no one really knows

i liked paul alot actually....good guy....real good fighter....but like i said...there was no defense....and his style actually took his physical advantages away....sometimes i think the guy only trained for stamina, the ability to throw volume, and offense.....i remember him saying he didnt even watch the martinez ko because there was no point....nothing he could learn....that it was just a fluke thing......which to me doesnt make sense....i mean if u dont wanna watch it i sort of get it....but theres always something you can learn from a mistake like that.....

i like pwill...and can admit he would have been a tough opponent...and things could have gone his way...well never know....but some of these guys act like the top p4p fighter, who has reigned for years, would have no chance and get dominated...its ridiculous to me

 

I don't understand how guys like Williams and Margarito are considered huge make or break fights for someone's legacy. Between them both there biggest win is covered in controversy., those would be there only good wins. Williams seems like he should have been good but never was all that ducking talk aside plenty of fighters have been ducked and still managed to fight some top champs so why couldn't he.

 

p will was a good fighter....pretty darn good....but these guys always have to create some proverbial "boogeyman" that floyd is scared to death of and couldnt beat even if he tried......different day...same ****

 

If Floyd beat Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime, SRR would be called C level and overrated.

 

The thing that I look at is the names people bring up and the names they leave out Casamayor is never brought up and a win over him was big for the better part of ten years between 99-06/7, beating Mayweather was a big in 98", 08", & still is now, beating Tyszu was a big win between 97-04/5 beating Margarito was a big win for a 6 month period in 08 . Yet Margarito is this huge legacy defining fight.

 

he would have losses and if he wouldn't have retired early then he will not be over protected as of now and there will be no promotional fights that many great fights would have been made that would have made boxing more popular and the fans more contented in ppv..... many of the atg's have losses to lesser known opponents....

 

His haters will say he loses to everyone he never fought. Realistically, PAC and PWILL gives him a rough time but he easily out points both in the end. Serg may have beat him at 160 but Floyd would be giving up nearly 25 pounds (Floyd has Zero business fighting at mw). At 154 I would say it is a pick'em fight, I think Serg really has some weight issues and it was the reason he moved up to 160. He beats casaaymayor, he beats zu, he beats the protected Cotto he boxes circles around Margo.

 

Im sorry , I just don't share your view .

I just don't see Floyd as the invinicible fighter like you do .


he beats them both fairly easily.??

Yeah , you don't even believe that yourself .


Williams outworks Floyd . Floyd cant do anything to keep Williams off of him .

Sure he can bust out the shoulder roll and use his footwork to try to evade Williams attack .

Yet he just going to be giving rounds away .

To beat Williams , you have to be willing to engage with him (Look what Martinez/Quintana did) because basically you have no choice , You gonna get hit . The mans hands never stop moving .

Floyds not built that way . Hes not going to engage .

He will be looking to potshot him and fight from the outside . and that gameplan is not going to beat Williams .

Williams workrate wins him this fight in a shutout .

Floyd has more of a better chance beating Pacquiao than Williams .

 

a shutout? really guy?

so basically any guy with a height/reach advantage just has to keep his arms/hands moving towards floyd and floyd cant win a round? lmao

 

Imo pretty much the only reason people consider Williams a threat is due to height and not what he's actually done in the ring Martinez didn't brawl Williams in the rematch he timed him and hit him with the same shot over and over til he was KO'd. I think the closet comparison you can make is Williams-Lara and we saw how easily Lara outboxed Williams even though he got swollen up in that fight Lara is nothing but an inch taller than Mayweather and a drastically lesser skilled boxer. Williams can be out thought and Williams couldn't avoid a right to save his life. Out of all the guys you can name the only one with a real legit chance would be Martinez at 160.

 

Floyd has never experienced anything close to Paul Williams .

Yes, I will repeat myself .

Williams wins a SHUTOUT .

Mayweathers potshotting, throwing 5 right hands a round aint going to cut it . Floyds low workrate in this fight would get him into serious trouble .

No way possible is Williams going to gass out after 6,7 rounds which Mayweather anticipates all of his opponents to do .

I don't see anything Floyd can do to win a decision over Punisher . What can he do ??

Floyd cant outwork him , Floyd cant get his respect with his power.

So You tell me how does Floyd keep Williams off of him ??

Stylistically , Paul Williams was Floyds Mayweather Kryptonite and its unfortunate that Williams was never given a chance to prove it .

 

Williams/Lara - Different place , different timing of Pauls Career . Not to mention he was coming off a 1 punch knockout loss .

That was not the 147 pound Williams .

Lara is a southpaw who are naturally difficult fighters to deal with and also Mayweather would not engage the same way Lara did .