The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me just reemphaisize the level of intellectual dishonesty you're dealing with here with these guys.

    You'll note that dodong didn't include a source for his Riccardo Ricco point. Know why? Because the last time he used this, the VERY SAME ARTICLE he posted as 'proof' contained this self ownage (link to exposure HERE ):

    Lastly, let the record show that expert dodong is challenging here, the one who dodong is disputing his claim of needing a blood test is Dr. Caitlin. Y'all know who Dr. Caitlin is right?
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  2. Main Events

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    If a neighbor thinks you stole his dog and calls you a scumbag for stealing his dog and asked you to let him in your house to check if his dog is there. Would you let him in?
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Similar but not quite the same.
     
  4. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calling it similar is more than charitable to that rubbish.
     
  5. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    WTF you need a girlfriend man
     
  6. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he counter offered...thats not walking away...what dont you get?

    Pac did not offer a damn thing at the 14 day proposal simply walked away and sued him of course.
     
  7. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Originally Posted by Main Events
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    (If a neighbor thinks you stole his dog and calls you a scumbag for stealing his dog and asked you to let him in your house to check if his dog is there. Would you let him in?)


    Manny's house is already being checked by the world of boxing when he takes those urine tests. The difference is the commission only checks a certain amount rooms, does that make sense?? When Manny said no to stringent testing it was like him saying you can check all rooms except the master bedroom...then you guys jumped on his side after that blatant non sense.
     
  8. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These guys blindly follow pac. Some where on here already hyping manny vs Chris....then calling midana a cherry pick. Makes no sense.


    Pac lost a lot of boxing fans by looking suspicious but kept his ******* fans.
     
  9. Loudon

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    Why are you trying to do a direct comparison of Manny's circumstances from 2009 to 2013?

    For the millionth time, the boxing landscape has changed since the whole fiasco.

    Back in 2009, it was uncommon for testing to be written into contracts.

    For his first THIRTEEN YEARS as a pro, Floyd was not on a mission to clean up the sport.

    He also had no issue about Manny being tested, before his father spoke up.

    Also, nobody else was suspicious of Manny, and none of his opponents required him to be tested.

    The commission didn't want him to be tested, only Floyd.

    Therefore, WHY would Manny have agreed (back then) to have had his camp disrupted, just because of the ramblings of Floyd Snr??


    Fast forward to the present day, and now it's common for fighters, trainers, promoters and managers etc, to require that opponents are to be tested.

    Floyd has changed the landscape of boxing.

    So Manny is now more open to the testing.

    It's really not that difficult to comprehend.


    He was never going to give in to all of Floyd's demands back in 2009.

    Because again, it was uncommon back then, and also, a guy with a huge ego (Manny) is not going to be dictated to, by a guy like Floyd.

    His name had been tarnished, and if he'd have accepted all of Floyd's demands, it would have given Floyd a huge amount of power in any further negotiations.

    We've seen what he's done with Marquez, Canelo and most recently Maidana.


    Now I'm all for testing, and I would love to see all fighters randomly tested if it was possible.

    But don't blame Manny for not accepting all of Floyd's demands, that were based off of the ramblings of an idiot. (his father)
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's a good analogy.

    Everyone is different.

    It would be like if you were shopping, and a security guard accused you of stealing from a shop.

    If you were innocent:

    Would you willingly open your bag, to show him he was mistaken?

    Or would you tell him to get f**ked!?


    Again, everyone is different.


    It's fun to speculate, because everyone will have a different opinion.


    But you can't really replicate the circumstances of signing for what would have been, the biggest grossing fight of all time.
     
  11. Loudon

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    What don't you get?

    It's the same thing, just from a different view point.

    Pac wanted 30 days.

    Floyd said no.

    He then countered with 14.

    Manny said no.

    In the end, Floyd wouldn't budge from 14, and Manny wouldn't budge from 24.


    So what if he sued him?

    He had a right to sue him.


    Let me guess, you're ok with Floyd saying whatever he wants, but you're not ok with Manny taking him to court?


    How stupid did the Mayweather's look in court?

    They had ZERO evidence, and they had to apologise and pay a fine.

    The whole family are idiots.
     
  12. Loudon

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    He looked suspicious because he didn't comply with all of Floyd's demands, that were based off of the ramblings of his father?
     
  13. turbotime

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    How would I look if I said no, then called you up a week later and said Ok you can check now?
     
  14. MoJoGoodie

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    jesus ....i didnt even say anything bad about the law suit just said he sued him....

    your saying its the same thing when its not....Pac offered 30 floyd COUNTER-offered 14.....now instead of making another COUNTER-offer....Pac walked away.....its not the damn same thing...no you cant flip it no you cant reverse it....wtf
     
  15. hussleman

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    Yes! If pacman agreed to the version of testing Mayweather wanted then the Fight would have been made! Remember Mayweather agreed to all pacman demands!
     
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