The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right now fans on both sides are on full fledge nut hugging. At least if one looses will only have one to deal with .
     
  2. 5_Burowz

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    Whatever allusions you believe I brought forth is on you, not me. I personally don't have any beliefs one way or another as to how this match will play out because anything can happen. I do think though that amount of stress that is currently in Floyd's life could possibly play a role in the fight. I also think--based on numerous things--that Floyd might not be physically what he once was, and that could play a role as well. Whatever karmic/comeuppance/whatever other word you want to gloss it with really doesn't matter because it's not what the issue is about. I could've said 'bad luck', and then you would've come in here like a raving loon saying that there is no such thing as 'luck', blah blah blah. Go back to your peyote.
     
  3. shoe

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    holy cow, batman. you leapt over fairy tale believers and non-believers in a single bound. well done.... you think rules stop primal urges? which ones, like eating, drinking and not walking in front of traffic?
     
  4. ElCyclon

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    Pac and FLoyd need each other more than they ever have. After both their next fights fail
    to meet expectations, they will need to consider each other as a serious option.
     
  5. Toker

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    No, not smarter. My IQ as well as that of everyone else on this forum is within the normal range. I myself am not above falling back on the crutch that is make belief, if circumstances become unbearable. This is the same type of defense mechanism that creates multiple personalities. Its a delusion but it can help.

    The concept of atheism is not new and I didn't discover it. Like I mentioned before the concept of materialism was brought up by vedic cultures in sandscript, there were famous atheist philosophers in Greece, and even Moorish Spain had atheist philosophers and doctors who were culturally Muslim.

    Over all I disagree with you on the concept that religion is the only way to keep social order I can definitely see a secular social order. And although I do think that religion has some merits, I believe it does more harm than good. It is up to all of us to create a better world, and I see a better world as one without religion and superstition. But I concede it won't be in my lifetime and as a said because it is a defense mechanism it will never be totally eradicated.
     
  6. bandeedo

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    i couldnt rightly tell you how i arrived at those beliefs, i rarely bother to memorize the author of the ideas that are cataloged in my brain. ive never considered thoughts to be original so i never saw the need to attribute them to anyone in particular. i think all the knowledge of all time and space exists in every individual, its just a matter of accessing it. the more you know about the larger number of things, the clearer the big picture becomes.
    i may come across an idea tomorrow that would make what i believe today, obsolete.
     
  7. 5_Burowz

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    Personally I blame not having a Lounge anymore for what this thread has become.
     
  8. Toker

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    Actually chance and randomness has a lot to with everyone's circumstances whether they realize it or not. It is actually, to some extent testable and measurable as a concept.

    And now it is making assumptions. I only smoke weed, nothing else. I hope you weren't trying to be discourteous with that comment. After all we are adults who can and should be civil.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Come on, do you think that if everybody stops believing in God that we'll all just get along and have some beautiful communist utopian society, that's being incredibly naïve. Nothing will keep bad people from doing bad things, but if you convince them they will go to hell if they do them that might prevent some shitty things from happening.
    We are animals we have primal urges, our id is never far from breaking through to our conscious mind its always scratching just beneath the surface, and most people need something to control that impulse. Religion is just a tool that bad people use to control the masses, but without it bad people would find another tool, most people are too stupid to live without a construct. People are naturally shitty and nothing will change that, and without something to scare the **** out of crazy religious people I'm scare of what atrocities they could commit.
     
  10. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "a knowledge of much literature is the best way to escape the tyranny of any one of them".

    but i have to say that your assertion i put in bold sounds like mystical mumbo-jumbo to me. there's a huge disparity in various peoples ability to comprehend things. for example there's a ton of stuff i couldn't get even with a few hundred years trying (such as higher math) and i'm smarter than the average bear.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    But you are falling onto a crutch of atheism, that's what good about being an atheist you don't have to believe in anything, or preach a message, you can just live your life without being bothered by a belief system.
    But you have one anyway, NonBelief is now a religion. I have a wonderfully carefree life I don't think about religion and don't care if people are religious. I can pretend like it doesn't exist, religious people don't bother me because I ignore them, their belief is not a threat to me. No amount of atheist preaching will wipe out organized religion, its pointless don't waste your breath, don't even think about it, that is truly freeing, to not care.
     
  12. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you crack me up. you really do. fyi, animals aren't sadistic, and more atrocities have been committed in the name of religion or similar ideology than even avarice.
     
  13. 5_Burowz

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    Prove it scientifically
     
  14. 5_Burowz

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    And I think you were being discourteous by not addressing what I wrote in the original post. You just went off on some tangent about one particular word I used and look where we're at. Your fault, and if I could, I'd punch you in the face. How's that for civil you fvcking shit heel?
     
  15. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he's right about that one. like genetic mutations are random and also there are probabilities in quantum particles, not certainties.
     
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