The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

When someone says something about Mayweathers power, i point to his opponents

Hatton, Mosely, Maidana, Canelo, Marques had never been stopped when the fought Floyd.

De La Hoya had only ever been stopped once and that was by Hopkins.

 

Yes,Williams could have been good fight.there are also other good choices.forget probably already couple,because Floyd is accused of ducking everybody who he didn't fight at WW.but IF Floyd have fought Williams it would have been probably remembered as a cherrypick again?and as i said,i think Floyd has favoured one style of fighters which is not good.but also thinking it wouldn't probably change anything.atleast how people rate Floyd.because the hate is so strong?

I also think Floyd has ducked certain fighters in his career,but also think would it have changed anything?because people love to hate Floyd and his record and opponents.

And if remember correct,the time when Williams and Margarito were hot.was at the time of Baldomir and De La Hoya fight?i can't say Floyd did wrongly in there.fighting lineal WW champion and after that JMW belt holder?and biggest PPV attraction in De La Hoya.it just doesn't make sense to skip those fight.after that however Floyd should have shared the ring against Margo or Willimas.but i understand atleast businesswise why it didn't happen.Floyd and De La Hoya had rematch clause and Floyd didn't agree the already negotiated purse split.so Floyd even can't fight against Margo or Margarito next if i'm correct?he should have fight against De La Hoya again at 147.sometimes boxing doesn't make sense at all.i understand businnes wise why Floyd opted to "retire".but if we are talking sportwise then it was unaccetable.but boxing is not a sport it's a business.

Hope again you atleast understand something about my post.damn Floyd and this whole scenario is so weird.

I understand why Floyd opted the way he have done,but in oneway i don't uderstand it all. :rofl

 

I think khan could knock down if not knock out a few if them but that's all opinion anyway, I don't think he's a puncher neither is mayweather there a similar level but right now I think khan might have the edge I'm not sure though because mayweather a power is underrated , but it's not a key thing for either guy. And your argue ment doesn't really make sense because guys like provoknokv thurman and ggg haven't faced or knocked out people as good as Floyd does that mean Floyd has more power.

 

this thread got completely high jacked and should be done.
khan probably has more power right now, Floyd had insane power in his natural weight class but he is fighting guys 15/20 pounds heavier way out of his weight class on a consistent basis.

khan is bigger, much younger and a very bad fight for a 38 yr old floyd

 

I dont see Khan knocking any of them out. Not one.

Yes, but im not arguing about whether Thurman, Provodkinov etc hit harder than Floyd. Im arguing that Khan does not hit harder than Floyd, maybe at a similar level, but not harder.

When Floyd had as many fights has Khan had, their KO% were 58% and 59% respectively.

 

So you think Floyd does have power than those guys? And I know your not arguing that but using your criteria for judging power those guys have less than floyd

 

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I think i made it clear in my previous post. Unless you're confused.

Khans KO % and Floyds were similar when they had the same number of fights.

The debate has nothing to do with Thurman or Provodkinov.

 

I'm just showing you the method you were using to show who has more power is fairly stupid , but yeah they have a similar level of power , it's hardly worth this big 20 page argument

 

If i was to compare Mayweather to Provodkinov/Thurman then yes it would be stupid.

But im not, im comparing it to Khan which is more relative to the argument.

 

ko% is very tricky and shouldn't be used as a gauge for ones power.
like Floyd had a crazy ko% when he was younger and in his natural weight class but not anymore.

using that criteria Floyd has better power than pac since the fact is he has a better ko% at WW than pac does. so many of the ko's are when fighters are building their careers against inferior opponents. I only gauge power when fighters are fighting other top tier opponents.

Floyd and power at ww and jmw don't go together, yes, he has enough to keep every fighter honest and hesitant but he doesn't load up on anything most of the time. he has much more power than the haters claim but power is not his game. having less than ko power shows truly how great he is considering the ONLY time he came close to losing was when he was a aged 37/38 yr old

 

It is tricky and i dont normally use KO%s dont get me wrong.

But the point i was arguing was that Khan and Mayweather, when both had equal number of fights, also had a similar KO%.

So the myth that Khan somehow htis harder is put to rest.

 

but Floyd was fighting at 130/135. I think khan started at 40 ? am I wrong

 

Khan started at 135, plus are you not familiar with the Castillo fight? Jesus Chavez was supposedly ahead on the scorecards against him till he quit

 

what about those fights ? no way was Chavez ahead on the cards. I've never seen the cards but from round 4 on he took a hellish beating..

the first Castillo fight was a little tough due to Floyd being injured but he still won it very clearly. only the haters claim it was very close.

it was 6/0 easily then Floyd won the 10th and 12th for sure and

khan starting at 35 is something I didn't know, I never followed khan till he started fighting headliners in the states.

so khan is naturally just a little bigger than Floyd. but now khan in his prime has filled out to be considerably bigger than Floyd. floyds shots are more affective but khan probably shows a little more power due to being bigger stronger and a decade younger primed up

 

The way people were going on about how Floyd lost the first Maidana fight on here was incredible.

I watched the fight myself and realised a) people hate Mayweather that much b) some people dont know how to score rounds.

I heard the same **** after the Cotto fight.

Cotto made Floyd work for it, but he lost nearly every round. I think i gave him the 6th (the round Floyd took a breather), and maybe 1 of the later rounds.

Same as Lara/Canelo. Canelo won that fight hands down, his flurries and body work was much better than Laras one at a time pit pat jab.