The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. kirk

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    Thats hardly just superficial damage.... cotto had massive and deep swelling of his entire face, multiple cuts, and what was more telling on the power was cotto's full out shameless retreat in the later rounds, not to mention getting planted on the canvas.

    This conversation is absurd :lol:
     
  2. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Maybe, but unless you've been hit by both, you're in no position to say who had more single shot power. Pacquiao is more of a volume puncher, but Mayweather is clearly a more accurate puncher with more ability to walk opponents into punches and tag them while they're most vulnerable.
     
  3. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    The pics that he posted showed nothing but superficial damage, and conveniently only showed half of Cotto's face after his fight with Mayweather as opposed to a full frontal view during the Pacquiao fight when Cotto's face was bleeding. Compare Pacquiao's post Cotto pics to Mayweather's... Does Mayweather have a black eye and a bandage over his ear? No, I thought not... I guess that means Cotto had a much closer fight with Pacquiao than he did with Mayweather, (by your logic) right? :think
     
  4. kirk

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    I let my eyes tell me the truth. The evidence is overwhelmingly clear, imo.

    I have no doubt mayweathers power is underrated and he hurts his opponent, but id be a fool to disregard the obvious truth because of a common occurrence in boxing (fighters crediting opponents they do better against then the ones that destroy them)

    I think they have two different types of power... floyd heavier hands and pac explosive/ concussive.

    But do i think mayweather hit cotto harder than a 2009 pac? I would feel foolish believing that when the truth is so clear.
     
  5. kirk

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    By my logic? Please point out where i say a face tells the story of how close a fight is or isnt. what i said was cotto didnt have superficial damage in the pac fight, because it wasnt. It looked like plastergate part 2. It was horrendous.
     
  6. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Fair enough. Like I said, I don't know who punches harder as I haven't been punched by both, and maybe Cotto is completely full of ****, but I'm not about to pretend that a pic showing superficial damage to Cotto's face or the fact that Pacquiao stopped a 145lb Cotto and Mayweather UD'd a 154lb Cotto is proof positive either way.
     
  7. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Cuts/swelling are superficial damage. :deal
     
  8. Gander Tasco

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    Pac knocks Cotto down twice with one punch. Does a picasso to his face. I think Cotto probably isn't telling the truth. ( It's ok *****s Floyd is still a good fighter. )
     
  9. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    wouldnt he just save that for when a fight with may is signed..i mean i think of "cottos next opponent" i think of canelo immediately and then GGG.

    :patsch you are seriously that salty about a glorified champion miguel cotto (who i think is one of the most loved current fighters on the forums besides erik morales) giving his opinion (which unlike any forum ****** is actually valid as he fought both of them)
     
  10. Cormega

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    Gender Fiasco finally decides to rear his ugly, *******ed head after some time off... Welcome back. :good
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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    If Cotto said this then he must of forgotten how hard Pac hit him when they fought because the evidence suggests Pac is the harder more concussive puncher of the two.

    You only have to compare the fighters they have both faced and the results to see Pac hit's harder.

    Cotto - Pac TKO 12 but Mayweather only wins a decision

    Hatton - Pac KO2 but Mayweather TKO10

    Mosely - Pac drops him in the 3rd on his way to UD, while Mayweather UD's Mosely but scores no knockdown

    De La Hoya - Pac RTD8 while Mayweather only wins a decision


    You often get fighters say fighter A hit harder than fighter B when they went the distance or longer with fighter A but fighter B stopped them earlier and much more conclusively. The only reason I can think of this is the when the harder more concussive puncher hits them they are discombobulated and so feel the pain less despite the fact the punches are harder.
     
  12. kirk

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    Nah.... most cuts and small knicks are. Deep tissue swelling on every inch of your face is far from it. To each their own though.... different parameters maybe as to whats superficial damage. But either way, trying to downplay the damage to cottos face that fight as you repeatedly are trying to do just seems silly to me. His face was massacred, period.

    Goodnight im off to bed... im sure this will be debated for quite awhile longer :lol:
     
  13. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    a 10 year old boy could give you a black eye? a punch is a punch the body will react to it physically, does it hurt more then say a single punch from a well trained fighter that might be in an area less prone to bruising ? im a fighter myself so i can save you the trouble of stepping between the ropes to find out for yourself. YES... YES IT WOULD

    though the opinion of a world champion who fought both fighters in question and who had absolutely nothing to gain from making the comparison is not believable then im just wasting my time on non nonsensical biased posters ?
     
  14. kirk

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    That pic isnt even as bad as it got....
     
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