The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. jomzky

    jomzky in your mind Full Member

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    Here's what Arum has to say about it on usatoday and I quote:

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    "Floyd Mayweather can say whatever he now wants to say, but his actions over the last several weeks demonstrate that he didn't want to get in the ring against Pacquiao. He made excuse after excuse, and when put to the test, he chose to flee rather than fight.

    "I've been in this business for almost 50 years. I've handled some of the greatest Hall of Fame fighters — Ali, Foreman, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Leonard — they argue about this, they argue about that, but every fighter agrees to be bound by the rules and regulations of the athletic commission in which the fight is to take place. That's been the historic basis for this sport, and I made a terrible, terrible mistake at trying to appease this egomaniac kid.

    "When he started with the special blood-testing, we should've told him 'goodbye, forget about it, if you want to fight, the fight's in Nevada, the commission will regulate it.' You don't appease. I made a fundamental mistake. In order to get this fight the public wanted, I appeased an egomaniac by talking to him about blood testing. And that was stupid on my part."

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    If PBF really wants the fight, he could have drop these tests and fight Pacquiao based on the rules and regulations of the commission where the fight is to take place.
     
  2. LabCabinCali

    LabCabinCali New Member Full Member

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    If this is true, than it's Manny's fault the fights not happening. 14 days is a good compromise.
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    That does not tell us about the 14 day offer.
    Is he turning it down??? If so, why???
    That makes absolutely no sense.
     
  4. Norbix

    Norbix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather handled this way classier than Pac. He was silent the entire negotiation while Arum couldn't last a minute without opening his fatass mouth.

    14 days is fair, I'm a huge fan of both but would lose only respect for Manny if he rejects this.
     
  5. thekid

    thekid SEC Full Member

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    way to go luke
     
  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Yep, this fight MUST get done.

    I agree with 99% of you here, if Pacquiao knocks back this 14 day thing, then he simply doesnt fancy his chances vs Mayweather... it really IS that simple.


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  7. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    With that being said who do you think was the 1 ducking?
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    its starting to look like arum is manipulating pac into keeping food out of floyds mouth. he may be telling manny that giving in will make him look weak to a leader in order to **** floyd while looking like he is trying to make the fight that everbody wants happen. its hard to tell from all the different developements. one thing im certain of, whatever is happening its probably by arum design.
     
  9. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    If he knew about the 14 days and refused it to go fight clottey, I have no respect for manny or arum.
    I defended manny based on his desire to not be harassed by USADA until the fight started, but 14 days? that is 2 ****ing weeks... a pay period.

    No way this makes sense.
    Arum is a buster, and manny needs to explain this ****.
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Both sides just pushing. This whole negotiation has been one big power/ego trip. Honestly, Arum has consistently lied and I'm sure as hell Schaefer has too. It's not about who is right or wrong or who is ducking who. It's not about "Well Manny wants to fight." His team has his interests at hand, as does Floyd's. It's never been as simple as you've tried to make it. Now it seems you've woken up and reality has hit. Both sides have gone back and forth. This fight could've been made of both were really willing to. Obviously they aren't if we have come 2 months only to get posturing. Maybe Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny. Maybe Manny's pride and principles are causing him not to succumb. Maybe Manny has trust in his team and will go in the trenches with them during this negotiation process. A lot of this is just bull****. These guys don't care about their legacies or about a mega-fight. Their interest and own self is what matters. It's all bull****. Boxing has certainly changed from the days of 30+ years ago.

    With a superfight and all this money you would think the fight should be made. Why Manny couldn't just succumb to Floyd's ridiculousness. Floyd backed off a little bit, but certainly has been asking a lot. But obviously they don't care as much as the boxing fans. People who said "The fight's going to be made. There's too much money." That's a bunch of bull****. Big fights have not been made. If this fight gets made it won't get made March 13th. Too much time has passed. You need more time to advertise a PPV Event. This is smoke and mirrors. Most likely, we will see a fight later in the year. As Floyd says, "It takes 6 months to promote a PPV event." This is not a guaranteed thing to happen, though. This "Too much money" is like the "Businesses are too big too fail" bull**** the government fed us. As if that's true.
     
  11. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    this has got to be true. damn what's the matter pac? :?
     
  12. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    No, I have been unbiased and making my judgment based all on the facts and the news coming out. It had looked as if Manny was very sincere in his request to not have blood drawn in the lead up to the fight, and that was the only stumbling block. Floyd agreeing to a 14 day cut-off is absolutely reasonable if your concern is being weakened, so Manny needs to address this 14 day cut off and what is wrong with it before I judge him. But I definitely have a weird feeling there is something more to this.

    Why is 14 days no good?
    Who made that call?
     
  13. allenray

    allenray Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather Sr.
    "Nobody takes him serious because all he does is tell lies. Like he tells everyone that I used to beat him all the time when he was younger and all I did is beat him. That's a lie. How can become the fighter that he is today if I was beating him to ground all the time. What I did do is help him make over $100 million dollars,"

    "He thanks everyone but his daddy. He thanks Leonard Ellerbe, a homosexual. I know he's a homosexual and everyone else knows it. You can print that because I said it. I can tell you nothing else but how gay he is."
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    there are some stories that could not be told by just believing arum or floyd's side of it. from what i understood basing from both their stories, floyd and/or his represenatives came up with 14 days cut-off while arum came-up with 24 days. both cold not be budged and should have compromised a bit more. it's too unlikely that only a 10 days difference would **** this fight up. why not make it 19 days then? there must be more to this than just it. both sides should sit back and talk more if the days of the cut-off is the only issue. both sides should work this out easily.
     
  15. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    good to see you can see another side of the story. I'm noy a Floyd fan at all. I'm a fan of this fight and when I see the main reason a fight can't be made is because a guy is refusing certain drug testing that has to raise questions and now Floyd even backed off a hard date and Manny still walks away???? You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see what is going on.
     
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