The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said it would be harder to predict, that doesn't mean that pac vs mayweather would be easy to predict now does it?
     
  2. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    to be honest if mayweather had fought pac after the cotto fight in 09 i would have been quietly confident in pacman winning and i would have been even more confident that tyson would have kod lewis within 6 especially with the chin that lewis had and the way tyson use to be able to close the distance in his prime i wouldnt have given lewis much of a chance but would have been an amazing fight
     
  3. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still clinging to those 'Scoop' articles, eh?

    Hilarious.
     
  4. trippy1

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    I wish it didn't take this long to give Floyd, Espinoza, Haymon this ultimatum.

    Floyd has no where to hide now.
     
  5. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Floyd's ego got blow to bits by moonves.

    Moonves: where's my money *****!
     
  6. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wow cant belive more people arent going for tyson lewis
     
  7. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    KATHY DUVA: “IT’S EASY TO HIDE BEHIND SOMEBODY IF YOU DON’T WANT THE FIGHT. MANNY PACQUIAO REALLY DOES WANT THE MAYWEATHER FIGHT TO HAPPEN”


    Robert Brown: Kathy, I want to get your promoters view on a hot topic in boxing. Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is once again in talks. Do you think Bob Arum and Al Haymon and their unwillingness to work together is what’s stopping that fight from taking place?


    Kathy Duva: If Floyd Mayweather wanted the fight to happen, I think it would happen, I don’t know if he does. It’s easy to hide behind somebody if you don’t want a fight to happen. My personal opinion is that at this point in time, it appears Manny Pacquiao really does want the fight to happen. I think he does, based on the things he’s said and done recently.
    As far as Bob Arum is concerned, I gotta say, Bob Arum has been involved in making big fights with people he can’t stand many times, including with my own husband years ago. When they hated each other more than I can describe, and believe me, they hated each other as much if not more intensely than the relationship Arum has with Al Haymon right now.
    Arum’s relationship with Don King over the years has been just as acrimonious, yet the big fights always got made then. Something’s changed, I don’t know if it’s Bob but I do know that when you see someone obstructing over and over again, after a while you start to notice a pattern. I see a pattern.
    You see fighters giving up their titles rather than take a big fight, you see them moving over to Showtime when a fight with HBO is done already. You see constant avoidance of serious challenge by one person’s fighters. I don’t know how on earth you can’t see this pattern. I think whether it’s the fighter or the so called ‘advisor’ I really don’t know, but clearly they agree with each other or this wouldn’t be happening.


    http://ontheropesboxing.com/kathy-d...lly-does-want-the-mayweather-fight-to-happen/
     
  8. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's nice to hear her opinion. But is her's any more correct than the people who know nothing? Also, her fighters are on HBO, so she has an implicit bias, much in the way that Merchant had a bias towards Pac because his son in law worked for PAC. Also, she is talking about Stevenson when saying,"I see a pattern.
    You see fighters giving up their titles rather than take a big fight, you see them moving over to Showtime when a fight with HBO is done already. You see constant avoidance of serious challenge by one person’s fighters. I don’t know how on earth you can’t see this pattern. I think whether it’s the fighter or the so called ‘advisor’ I really don’t know, but clearly they agree with each other or this wouldn’t be happening." BTW, when is this article from?

    It seems that alot of the old guard have a problem with a fighter making as much money and having as much control in the game as Mayweather does.
     
  9. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    that's pretty much the problem.


    Pauli malignaggi said it himself about Al Haymon....


    "if you were the father, mother, or children of a boxer and he was signed to al haymon. You would love al hamyon"


    that has to mean something
     
  10. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes, you're correct.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07MO0ZrqhK8
     
  12. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You shouldnalso note her hypocrisy. In the video she criticizes Stevenson for trying to fight Hopkins because of Hopkins' age. However, after the Kovalev victory ove Hopkins, she said she didn't want anyone bringing up age.

    Another contradiction in her statements is her saying Hagler and Lenard simply fought each other. It took 5 years to make that fight, much like the Mayweather Pac fight. And Lenord, being the A side, chose the ring size, venue, date, and got the bigger cut.

    The problem Duva and the old guard is that Haymon is having fighters get away from long term contracts with promoters. Long term deals give promoters more control over star fighters. That's why De la hoya and Mayweather left Bob Arum and got rich. Pac has stayed with Arum and made far less money. Duva wants the old style relationship between fighter and promoter that Mayweather has blown out tghe water.
     
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    even Kathy knows what up mayweather might take the fight now only because he is forced to take it sad such extreme measures need to be taken
     
  14. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Long term contracts don't mean a thing as it relates to having your own champion drop a title because you lost the purse bid.

    The Quillin - Korobov fiasco had nothing to do with long term deals and getting tied down.
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Interesting opinion and points made by user's on the thread.

    Does it really matter "why"? Will you discredit the fight because he was "forced" to take the fight?

    To be honest, I'll just be glad they fought. Regardless who tried harder or who wanted it more. In my opinion, if Floyd truly wanted to duck Pacquiao, he could've stayed retired.
     
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