The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Rudyard · Apr 12, 2010

bandeedo said: ↑

simmer down, pooty tang. i never said blacks werent ****. i got blacks in my family. they aint like you though, they are honorable, responsible and successful men and not two bit hustlers who think its cool to be a pimp.
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:tiredSame old boring **** from you...I'm a pimp, dope seller, hell maybe I pimp your moms!atsch

At least be funny with your insults playa! My little newphew can do better than that ole bitchass nirca...Hell calling me a n***g3r would have been better!

ricardinho · Apr 12, 2010

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I'm not sure how much blood was ACTUALLY taken, but from the footage we saw on 24/7 it seemed like a hell of alot! At one point i counted atleast three test tubes containing blood and more was being drawn from Shane Mosley.

I'm no expert, some of you may know a hell of alot more than i do in regards to this subject, but I've known many a person who after giving blood for whatever medical reason have complained about feeling weak, light headed etc.

When fighters go into camp, they have to engage in a strict diet, dehydrating the body and many more conditional factors. With so much trauma already being placed upon the body, to then draw large quantity of blood I imagine would have some sort of affect on the athlete.

Therefore was Pacquiao justified in his refusal to engage in Mayweathers test demands, did we under estimate the logistics involved in random blood testing? I guess preparation for a fight is mental as much as physical, having to two random guys spending the night/day with you unexpectedly at any point even a day before the fight can disrupt your mental preparation.

What do you guys think? I'll be honest at first i did'nt see the big issue with random testing, but after seeing the footage on 24/7 with the amount of blood being drawn and the logistics involved in the testing, I can understand why a fighter would hesitate or maybe 24/7 dramatised it more than what actually went on.
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Please women menstruate more blood than that....

bandeedo · Apr 12, 2010

Rudyard said: ↑

Go finish up ya videos hoe!

At least you make a good internet soulja!:rofl Bitchass nirca!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKG3IOVruEA[/url]

Just like the posts he post on here...Full of anger...Please dont hurt me amigo!:rofl:rofl
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lol, yea thats me(whoever that is, i didnt bother to see the vid). im also very scared of the unemplyed nicca who begs me for money at the stop light every morning. the one that reminds me of mutts like you.

Rudyard · Apr 12, 2010

bandeedo said: ↑

lol, yea thats me(whoever that is, i didnt bother to see the vid). im also very scared of the unemplyed nicca who begs me for money at the stop light every morning. the one that reminds me of mutts like you.
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Try again motha****a!:yep This dude here is killing me...Thank god for the internet!

bandeedo · Apr 12, 2010

Rudyard said: ↑

Try again motha****a!:yep This dude here is killing me...Thank god for the internet!
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it is a great source of amusement. its not often a roach stands still for me to spray it down, props to you, lol.

Bubba · Apr 12, 2010

Why didn't Golden Boy insist on Olympic style drug testing for Hopkins-Jones or Haye-Ruiz?!

:huh

Da Chin Chekka · Apr 12, 2010

DonPrestige said: ↑

No because both are doing the same tests. Simple as that.

Can't believe people are still trying to make excuses as to why an athlete shouldn't face rigorous drugs tests.
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Cause they have a deep rooted hate for Floyd...

thesmokingm · Apr 12, 2010

pejevan said: ↑

Drug Testing For HGH: Scientifically Valid or Just Politically Correct?

Patrick C. English, Esq.

The Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr debacle has led to an incredible amount of posturing and, as a result,
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. This posturing has been under the guise of a campaign for a drug-free sport, something we all favor. But the
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First, the best experts in the field report there is no good test for HGH. At present, there is no urine test that works. And Dr. Don H. Caitlin, head of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab and for many years one of the most knowledgeable experts in the area - possibly the most knowledgeable has stated that he believes blood testing is impractical. He points out that,
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In part, this is because the detection limit is short, about 24 hours. In other words, the athlete would have had to use HGH within approximately 24 hours of the test to actually be caught.

Further, the one athlete who was busted for HGH after testing admitted to use.
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. Dr. Peter Sonksen, a pioneer in the field of HGH testing, says Theres very little new [data verifying the WADA test], and I think it would be quite easy for a lawyer to draw cart and horses through it in Court. This charge is echoed by epidemiologist Dr. Charles E. Yesalis of Penn State, who contends that the scientific data to back the testing protocols is insufficient to the point of being almost criminal.

Dr. Caitlin has said flatly that the method of testing used by WADA alone doesnt work.
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Further, anyone who has ever been involved in Olympic style testing knows its flaws and limitations. Blood tests, if done randomly, are exceedingly infrequent. Athletes who are subject to in-and-out-of-competition testing go years with no blood tests (though urine testing is another matter).

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. As an example, spur of the moment activities must be reported to WADA, according to the rules, 24 hours in advance. If an athlete decides to go to the shore on a sunny day, to go to assist a friend, or any of the plethora of activities of which we all partake every week, it must be reported to WADA in advance. This is tough enough to do with college athletes, more or less captive on campuses and virtually impossible with professionals with normal lives.
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. That brings us right back to the testing protocols. If HGH is detectable for only 24 hours, all an athlete needs to do is to arrange to be unavailable for testing the following day. Chances are overwhelmingly small that any test will be taken the following day. But if one is to be taken, the athlete can simply make himself unavailable that day without penalty.

Further,
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. The example of one Olympic level athlete is illustrative. Jessica Hardy, a swimmer, gave a urine sample on July 4, 2008. It was not until July 23 that she was notified of the failed drug test. She initially challenged the result and thus had the right to a hearing. That hearing began on August 1, 2008, when she withdrew her challenge. Thus it took approximately three weeks before she was even notified (resulting from the need to test the B sample) and four weeks before the matter was resolved. The Hardy matter involved a steroid with established scientific validity and an admission. If, as claimed by Dr. Sonksen there are flaws in the methodology for HGH testing, a legal challenge will take very considerably longer.

Whether Jessica Hardy was allowed to compete or not, the Olympics were going to proceed and her situation had no impact on its promotion. However, the same is not true of a boxing promotion. We have seen far too many situations when results from an A sample and from a B sample do not correspond (thus both need to be tested) and even situations from reputable labs where contamination, later discovered, made results unreliable. This is why the due process of a hearing is necessary.
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Drs. Caitlin, Sonksen and Yesalis are not advocates for abuse of drugs in sport. To the contrary, they are respected researchers who have done much to attempt to eliminate performance enhancing drugs in sport. Dr. Caitlin heads the most respected drug testing laboratory in the United States and developed the test which broke the Balco scandal. Dr. Sonksen is a fellow of the Royal Society of Physicians with some 315 scientific publications, many on this very topic. Dr. Yesalis co-authored the first comprehensive surveys of teen steroid use.

Caitlin, Sonksen, and others are working on legitimate, more reliable tests for HGH. While it may appear politically correct and provide a good sound bite to jump on the bandwagon for drug-free sports,
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Efforts should be toward developing tests that work and then implementing them; not in pretending that there are good and generally accepted scientifically valid testing techniques when there are not.

Patrick C. English, Esq. is an attorney with the firm of Dines and English, L.L.C. He has handled numerous matters involving drug testing and drug testing protocols, both on behalf of athletes as well as defending testing protocols.
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That's pretty funny. Even the grandfather of drug testing is giving the thumbs down to blood testing.

Again, the only reason to blood test at all is for HGH which by all accounts is suspect, very suspect.

AFBlues · Apr 12, 2010

Jacory Harris said: ↑

What does your little pansy reaction to having blood drawn have to do with professional athletes getting theirs drawn? In the military, EVERYONE has to have blood drawn. I guess they can refuse whenever they want, huh?:roll:
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Not for drug testing. Random drug testing in the military is done by urinalysis for all drugs.

eliqueiros · Apr 12, 2010

Bubba said: ↑

Why didn't Golden Boy insist on Olympic style drug testing for Hopkins-Jones or Haye-Ruiz?!

:huh
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Cuz Manny Pacquaio kills GBP fighters dead

Mayweather was their last hope, but they decided to fold

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dodong · Apr 12, 2010

thesmokingm said: ↑

That's pretty funny. Even the grandfather of drug testing is giving the thumbs down to blood testing.

Again, the only reason to blood test at all is for HGH which by all accounts is suspect, very suspect.
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:good

silkyjohnson · Apr 12, 2010

Pacquiao needs to stop being a *****. They do it AFTER he's done working out, and he has 14 days before the fight to "recover". ****ing *****.

carias · Apr 12, 2010

renyo said: ↑

He didn't just see Pacman in a bar and decided to pick a fight. These guys are on the highest level of boxing professionalism, they probably know each others shitting habits....

Besides, did you catch the 24/7 last night.. Because it was obvious these tests were waaayyyyy overboard. Better testing is one thing, this could definitely play with a fighters mental state..
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I'm going out on a limb here and saying that you aren't qualified to determine what amount of blood testing is excessive.

pejevan · Apr 12, 2010

Why did it take Mayweather 5 hours to pee?

Who knows if they are drilling a hole in the wall to insert a tube to pass urine of another person?

When we do drug test for custodial or court cases, someone has to be inside the toilet while the person is peeing, not waiting outside the bathroom. 5 hours seems like a long time!!!!!

eze · Apr 12, 2010

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Why did it take Mayweather 5 hours to pee?

Who knows if they are drilling a hole in the wall to insert a tube to pass urine of another person?

When we do drug test for custodial or court cases, someone has to be inside the toilet while the person is peeing, not waiting outside the bathroom. 5 hours seems like a long time!!!!!
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5 hours is rather normal after an extremely long workout.

You're body is going to keep a lot of the liquid you put back in it.

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