The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good god. two threads each with about 200 posts on the same subject. And that subject??? NOTHING

    Didnt they say at the start the first time they had no problem with any kind of testing that Floyd wanted???

    Now they are saying it again, and once again trying to dictate when he is willing to take a random test and how much blood they can take.

    People need to stop being so ****ing crazy about this nothing has changed, this fight is still at the starting blocks, and Pac already has a second line to run in just like the last time, in what they are saying will be his last fight.
     
  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    THEY ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS ENOUGH WHEN SHANE MOSLEY PASSED IT EVEN THOUGH HE WAS DIRTY:think...

    U MUST BELIEVE MARK MCGUIRE WHEN HE SAYS "STEROIDS DIDNT HELP ME HIT THOSE HOMERUNS" GIVE IT UP MAN...

    HE ISNT A CHEAT CUZ HE NOT TAKING TESTS..HE HAS SUSPICIONS SURROUNDING HIM CUZ OF HIS NUMEROUS EXCUSES HE HAD TO MAKE TO GET OUT OF THE TESTING...

    NEXT ONE PLESE CUZ THIS PAC FANS ARGUMENT JUST GOT EXPOSED :hat:good

    N U NEVER RESPONDED WHEN I PROVED YOUR STATEMENT WRONG....U SAID THEY WOULD "INTERRUPT" THE FIGHTERS AND MAKE EM QUIT TRAINING..ITS CLEAR U DONT EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT INFO TO DEBATE WITH....FURTHERMORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS BEING CALLED OUT BY MANY FANS IN THIS THREAD WHEN IT COMES TO "CURRENT TESTING"..EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BOXING KNOWS THAT THE CURRENT TESTING IS GARBAGE...
     
  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fight should be 50/50 or 60/40 to the winner. If Floyd asks for anything more, he's a fool. Pac is as much, if not more of a draw than he. Floyd says he was in the biggest fight ever, ummm I think it was because of DLH. Hatton also had a huge following.

    As for testing, it should be just like PBF v SSM. Enough of this thirld-world, superstitious BS. The earth isn't flat. Man up, you cheater Pac. Or, are you so scared of being embarrassed that you can't even step in the ring with Floyd without your PEDs?
     
  4. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I told you earlier that other fighters can't afford it and then you try to repeat the same exact thing to me. How does that make sense?

    I haven't heard any of them say that urine tests were good enough. Add to the fact that Mosley and Holyfield got passed these tests, it's hard to say that it's enough.


    Read this:
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201619

    Dr. Margaret Goodman used to work with the NSAC as the primary doctor for fights. Are you going to disagree with her too?
     
  5. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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  6. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    That would've been my answer. Boxing fans that believe that Pacquiao are Mayweather fans who believed Sr. Your question are legit but they're easy to answer.

    Just name me a PED that Pacquiao maybe using.
     
  7. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As a Floyd fan, this fight should be on now. Personally I would have (from the beginning) insisted on random testing up to the day of the fight, but Floyd compromised drawing a line at 14 days and now Manny has FINALLY stepped up to that line. In the famous words of Judge Mills Lane, "Let's get it on!"
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah crazy. I mean doing twice as many buys in your last fight gives you no leverage. :huh

    Can't argue with that. :good
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no point. FMJ just agreed last time for the fans. Now that he has seen that Pac doesn't negotiate in good faith? USADA or bust!

    Or the point is Pac doesn't want the fight made. So he says dumb stuff in the press. Given his track record? It makes sense.
     
  10. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's should be 1 after the fight and 3 or 4 before the fight.
     
  11. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    3 or 4 leading up to the fight? i think that's nonsense. there's already one after the fight.

    I respectfully disagree.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Their last fight's PPV sales had a lot more to do with their respective opponents.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225892&page=5

    Pac did as expected. 600-700,000.

    Floyd did a little more than half what he expected with 1.1-1.2M views.

    50-50 is a fair deal.

    Unless Floyd doesn't really want the fight.
     
  13. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You were actually foolish enough to try and answer!!!!!!!!!

    1. You completely ignored my first question and said something that had nothing to do with it. I never said fighters have never moved up in weight to beat bigger fighters.

    Here's the question again:
    How many fighters have moved up through several weight classes while destroying and physically dominating much bigger opponents?

    2. His speed is the same and he's gained power which you've also ignored. Cotto moved up one weight class and lost some power and speed. Everyone knows he had a hard time making 140. When Mayweather moved up to 135 from 130 he lost some power and he said he had problems making weight at that time as well. De La Hoya also lost pop in his punches after he moved up when couldn't make 135 anymore. I'll also point out that all of those fighters were younger and fresher than Pacquiao was when they moved up in weight. How come they declined but Pacquiao didn't?

    3. Fighters start to decline when going past the age of 30. Pacquiao improved and has more power with his same stamina and speed after 50 plus fights. No wear and tear at all? Come on now.

    4. None of those fighters bullied fighters who were much bigger than them. Name the bigger fighters that these men bullied and physically dominated? Is Paul Williams bigger than Tyson? When I say bigger I'm talking about weight obviously.

    5. You completely ignored question 5. Besides Pacquiao, what other fighters have said it would weaken them? The fear of needles, saying it would take him a month to recover then 24 days and now 14 after it was only supposed to take 3 days then 5 days for him to recover(ignoring the fact that your blood restores within an hour apparently). Are some of the excuses Manny and his team used. He takes the test 24 days before the Hatton fight trains the very next day with no problems. He does it again 20 days before the Clottey fight trains the very next day no problems and you expect me to believe that he thinks it will weaken him?

    I said legitimate answers by the way.
     
  14. king s

    king s Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im wating for floyds next ducking antics.
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    shouldnt take long. i hope it doesnt take another earth quake to get floyd to agree to this fight.
     
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