The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    $125,000 for a few drug tests?
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And a get out of conviction TUE, don't forget that!
     
  3. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Floyd could never combine offense and defense because he could never fight on the inside. His mentality is safety first, when he abandoned that in his earlier fights to be aggressive he got tagged a lot, he isn't a great defensive fighter. His defense is to avoid contact, not to create offense.
     
  4. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I personally don't know.. Like I've always said, if they found he cheated, F him.. Until then though, it's just suspicious.. If it was so obvious Bob Arum wouldn't be asking for another fight.. They would be trying to get justice for being cheated...
     
  5. thesmokingm

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    Watch the video my man, being honest here. Towards the end of the trailer they go thru most of major cheating/masking systems. These are hallmark tactics that Lance employed. One of the biggest ones was that he always knew when the testers were coming. Just like Floyd knew when to get the ****ing IV into his arms and squeeze the ever living **** out of it asap. Stuff like that is not coincidence and cheaters shouldn't get the BENEFIT of the doubt like much of the guys like you are giving IVboy.

    Only in boxing do fans actually protect cheaters. Go to a cycling forum and they will tear you apart. But not here, yall laugh and act like nothing happened. That is wrong man. Read up on David Walsh, he is just like Hauser. It was a one man war, Walsh vs the Amrstrong juggernaut. There are so many similar shades to Lance with Floyd!

    And you write well Arum should do something? What should he do? The anti-doping agency and the commission are in on it. And the fans are eating it up? What should he do? What about all the ppl that Lance Armstrong cheated? What should they have done? Do you know that it took Walsh twenty years to get the truth out there, and then for WADA to finally accept his evidence?
     
  6. M.3

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    Lance Armstrong sued everyone who questioned him.. He also did everything he could to avoid testing.. The comparisons are just a way too prove Floyd was cheating.. It's also convenient that Floyd can just pay everyone off and it's all good, but no one else can.. That's the reasoning for me asking if Pac could pay someone off as well since he/they have money...
     
  7. thesmokingm

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    Anyone could do whatever, but that is just you trying to twist the point. And that point is that IVayweather got an unheard of TUE 19 days after the fight, and after the fact that he was even using IV as exposed by Hauser's timeline. And then NSAC retracted what they said, and re-wrote the script.

    It's not about whether Pac could do that, obviously as Lance proved yea it is possible. It's really about how the hell does a guy secretly use a massive amount of IV fluids, tell no one, then when it is leaked, he gets a retroactive TUE. Stuff like that is huge, it is not supposed to happen.

    That's why there is NO protocol for such a thing. Read the WADA, there's no APPLY FOR TUE FOR IV YOU TOOK 19 DAY BEFORE!

    It's not about Pac, it's about your boy with the IVs in his arm with the testers knocking on his door my man!
     
  8. M.3

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    So what you're saying is that Floyd without a doubt used PEDs then used an IV the day before the fight to mask them.. They caught him, and reported it.. They later said it was ok because he applied for a TUE x amount of days after the fact.. Everyone now knows this, but no one can do anything because Floyd has everyone on the payroll.. Did I miss anything?

    This whole story is stupid, but is what some people believe...
     
  9. thesmokingm

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    Dude, c'mon man. Please, think about it. USADA's testers caught Floyd with the IV equipment. This means they did nothing about it. They knew he took the IV and did nothing, nor tell anyone. They did nothing for 19 days, till Hauser dropped the bomb? Say what?

    How can you explain this so that it makes logical sense? I can't fathom a scenario that makes Floyd look clean as a whistle. Can you?
     
  10. thesmokingm

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    Another point, if Hauser didn't break the story would USADA have told anyone about it? It went on like this for 19 days, so obviously they were hiding it until they couldn't.

    That is not how an anti-doping agency should perform. DO you agree?
     
  11. M.3

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    All that is what I said..lol Except for them reporting it.. What's the argument? I even said he used PEDs.. Is the story I wrote wrong?
     
  12. acie2g

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    I don't know 100% if Mayweather is clean or dirty but regarding your statement, it was reported USADA caught Mayweather and tested him before he could use the IV, tested the IV then tested him after using the IV and found nothing. Maybe that's why nobody made a huge stink about it
    I mean its not uncommon for any type of athlete to rehydrate using IV fluid.
     
  13. M.3

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    Why would they? They're paid by Floyd.. They're going to say "oh yeah, Floyd did IVs in his house, but it's ok..."?
     
  14. thesmokingm

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    :huh

    Hmm, you more or less know the five W's, but still think it's stupid? If that's the case, let me ask you again, if Hauser never broke the article would USADA have made a statement that Floyd used IVs? Seriously, can you answer just this one question?


     
  15. M.3

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    Floyd paid them though.. They could just be talking to cover it up..


    See how the whole Floyd has money to pay everyone off is my main gripe? You can be completely stumped, but pull out the fact that he paid someone off to stay in the game...
     
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