The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    I love it. You guys say FMJ doesn't want the fight but NEVER acknowledge Pac's shady actions.
     
  2. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    I KNOW that wasn't information from Examiner.com ...

    I'm proposing a new rule just for *******s...

    When providing evidence to support your argument, it must be from a CREDIBLE source, NOT Examiner.com!
     
  3. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac wouldn't be going through this if he just agreed the first time around, why agree now and not then? He would also be on higher ground if he had fought Shane, before Floyd. That would've put Floyd in a tough spot, because there was no one else worthy in the welter weight divison to fight him. Now Pac back is against the wall, who else is there for him to fight other then Mayweather? Floyd really don't need him as much as Manny needs him now. If he decides not to take the drug test, as Maywheather see fit, (guilty or not) he will always look suspect to have used enhancement drugs.
     
  4. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    Pejevan, WADA and the USADA test boxers among many other athletes.

    :verysad
     
  5. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Right! UH DUH....

    So after 10 years, they will reverse the decision? Then what? Rematch? Return the purse? What's the point? It just raises more question than anything else.

    The ABC's I supposed would rather be quiet about the results than throw a ****** wrench!
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    its all up to pac..all he gotta do is take the blood tests and we gotta fight...floyd said it after the shane fight.."if he take the tests we can make the fight happen"
     
  7. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Overuse of them does seem typical.

    For example, you used 2 emoticons for one short sentence. That is overuse.
     
  8. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Like what? Cheating on his wife?

    I can acknowledge that, and the fact that I think less of Pac for doing so.

    The problem is that you have your ego attached to your established position. You cannot consider things objectively, due to the possible damage it would do to your ego.
    Right now, the words you are reading are not even entering into the analytical part of your brain. They are bypassing it, doing a little dip into your emotional centres. Everytime you rationalise your position your brain gives you a little squirt of dopamine. This happens to people all of the time, they are literally addicted to being irrational.

    I don't care if you accept this - in fact, the wiring of your brain will make it impossible for you to accept this - or even to consider it as a possibility.

    Which is why I have said it is pointless speaking to you. Another fact that you will be incapable of processing analytically.

    Just sit back and enjoy the dopamine.
     
  9. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    And that is bull****.

    :patsch

    :lol:

    Didn't know ESB had an emoticon police.

    :blurp
     
  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    You should make a distinction between an amateur boxer and a professional one!

    The olympics has different set-up because it has National olympic organizations, like the Australian olympic , etc(these Mational Olympic committees contribute t the coffer of the IOC, a big difference with the WBC, IBF, or WBO which get their revenues through sanctioning fees). These athletes are fighting year in, year out in amateur tourneys to qualify, get experienbce, etc., like any other athletes of other olympic sports. However, they are under controlled environment, in which a 24/7 365 days testing can be done, unlike in boxing.

    In amateur boxing, the goal is to win a medal, with two bronzes, 1 silver, and a gold medal awarded. If the winner is found out to have cheated later after retesting sample 5 years later, the gold is re-0awarded to the silver medalist, and so on.

    But in professional boxing, after they almost killed each other, there is not second place winner. So what is the point of holding on to the sample for 10 years? A fighter who was inducted to the Hall of Fame already suddenly was un-inducted and inducted to the hall of Shame? Besides storage of specimen is counted in the expense of the test.

    A generic drug testing protocol would never work in any professional sports - it is simply restrictive. For starter, you must have a set of itienerary provided to the body (USADA or whatever) so that they can have access to you 24/7.

    Tour de france can do that because it has so much advertising money, yet even the bikers are complaining. But in boxing where there are so many alphabet sanctioning body, they can not even give money to a fighter who ends up dead-brained in a fight to sustain him for a month! So how much more for a strict USADA protocol. Do you think Suleiman's WBC would pay for it when they are actually sanctioning fee-hungry that they would invent belts in order to get sanctioning fee? Nah!No way jose! IT simply won't work!

    What would wrk is a testing protocol that is suited for professional fighters, not the generic amateur USADA one!
     
  11. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    I'm keeping a tally of your emoticons. Just 13 more and you will be hearing a knock on your door.








































    :smoke
     
  12. Buzz Killington

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    What have you said that has been "objective." You stated an opinion and, like every Pac-backing asshat on this site, haven't supported it with anything other than repeating the same tired **** over and over, "Floyd is scared, Floyd is scared."

    You won't accept the fact that Pac might be scared. Or that none of them is scared and this is all just posturing.

    Here's another emoticon for you, on the house...

    :tong
     
  13. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    You won't like what you'll find.

    :nono
     
  14. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    That was from Tygart, the USADA chief. Are you trying to say that the examiner misquoted Tygart?

    To oblige you!

    From Fanhouse :

    Tygart said that the USADA program includes testing for a full menu of prohibitive substances and methods, adding that Mayweather and Mosley will "Be held to our program," and, "The same standard that all Olympic athletes around the world are being held to, which is WADA code standard."

    Under USADA's "out-of-competition testing pool," Mayweather and Mosley are "subject to the same list of prohibited substances that the World Anti-Doping Agency's 2010 list of substances," including the four main, potent drugs that urine testing won't find -- Human Growth Hormone (HGH), Homologus Blood Tranfusion (HBT), Synthetic Hemoglobin (HBOC) and the passport program, according to Tygart. (Note : xylocaine is not illegal with USADA so it is not included)

    The painkiller, Xylocaine, sometimes used by fighters to numb their hands against the pain of constant punching, is not on the United States Anti Doping Agency's list of prohibited substances, according to a top official with that organization.

    "It's a common local anesthesia, and it's not prohibited," said
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    , chief executive of the USADA. "It's perfectly allowable to take under the World Anti-Doping Agency's program."

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  15. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Wrong again.

    I accept them as possibilities. I don't think they are likely, but the probability is > 0.

    I can accept these as possibilities because my analytical centre is engaged.
     
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