The all things technical thread.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by slip&counter, Feb 5, 2012.


  1. Boxing&Blues

    Boxing&Blues Member Full Member

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    Apparently Floyd Sr does this bit to all the new fighters he trains.
     
  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    The shortest distance between two points is a straight line and all that.
     
  3. Black2023

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    Yeah swift head movement after punching was intelligent.

    It always reminds me of what makes top fighters, sometimes it the guy that keeps at it rather than the guy that is better that makes it to the top.
     
  4. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd like to add another example to my post from page 15.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML5WLvrc0P8[/ame]

    Just after 8 minutes, fantastic.
     
  5. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=381422[/url]
     
  6. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    :good.

     
  7. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Atberry, where is that breakdown of Eubank? I thought you'd relish it.
     
  8. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    One last thing about Jermaine. I think moments get too big for him and he panics in certain situations. For the best fighters things slow down in the big moments. But for Taylor things just get faster and faster and he reverts to type when he's under the gun. I've never seen a fighter at the top level fail to do so many right things at the right times. That's what separates the good and the great sometimes. Doing the right things at the right times.
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nISlgfOomPI[/ame]
     
  10. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like standard wing chun/jkd concepts. Jack Dempesy also talks about non-telegrapic straightline punching in his book as well.
     
  11. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :good I'll get there thank you
     
  12. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    The Michael Jai White video is excellent. It's a shame those sort of technical lessons aren't being adopted.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Fighting a Southpaw

    Now there is one school of thought about fighting a southpaw:
    - Get your lead foot on the outside of their lead foot
    - Straight rights and left hooks

    This is a great example of it.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7WpEbwwV6A[/ame]

    With getting your foot onthe outside of the opponents lead foot, you open up the 'pipe' for yourself, and close it for him. That means your straight right is ideally positioned to travel straight to your opponent's jaw. And your opponents straight left if thrown straight should be easy to deflect outside with your right hand.

    This position also opens up the left hook as you get extra leverage on your hook, and take away that leverage from your opponent.

    However, there is some other techniques you can use to combat southpaws.

    Firstly, you don't have to get your lead foot on the outside of theirs. As often southpaws are experts at keeping control of the lead foots, so its hard and distracting to try and control it, so you need another line of attack. When your lead foot is inside the opponents' your jab is in between their gloves and can travel straight to the jaw. It is a really effective punch against an aggressive southpaw, or a southpaw who fights quite squared up. Gilberto Roman shows us its uses in the first round here.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2DAG20Uz4[/ame]

    This can also be a sort of transitional game, Juan Manuel Marquez, he kept his foot inside Manny Pacquiao's and would jab, and as he jabbed step his foot outside Pacquiao's to set up the right hand. It was a lovely move he does over and over again in their first bout.

    Another thing is that most southpaws like to counterpunch so forcing them to lead with feints and conceding movements is a great way to controll the bout. Bernard Hopkins is the expert at this. As an orthodox fighter and facing a southpaw your range is slightly messed up as your opponents shoulders are reversed so its hard to judge your distance the same, so often when attacking either fighter over-reaches or under-reaches so if your playing the counter-puncher its on a plate for you.

    Another tactic is get inside. When inside your not really 'orthodox' or 'southpaw' but more squared up and none of the advanatges or disadvanatages exist.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Lets analyse David Hayes destruction of Chisora and Charles :)
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He had a WAR hat in his back pocket.