The all things technical thread.

fighters stamina and fighters generally have got shitter because of numbers participation. the more people fighting, the bigger the pool of talent and athletic ability. you cant take a guy with **** natural stamina and make him do modern or old school training and expect to see a massive increase in his ability because it was never there.

The fact I heard that shocked me and really shows why standards, particularly in america have dropped, "that in the 1950s in New York State, there were more registered professional fighters than there are in the whole of america today"

 

Finally, someone talking sense:good

 

Body has to be accustomed to the weight so no surprise. But moving up and down weight classes is going to have a negative effect on the body.

Guys like Hatton did bodybuilding routines so he is an example of poor strength training IMO

 

well im of the opinion that fighters now are way less fit, but it has as much to do with modern diets, weight swings, the notions of 10 week training camps yet staying out of the gym for 46 weeks a year as it is to do with S+C.

I do think modern S+C is overated though, because its sometimes trying to get a certain style of fighter fit for a style he never employs.

 

I think it taught them a lesson to ease back on the weights.

Either that or just find an old, shite opponent to beat up on like Audley in his next fight.

Hatton's strength training suited him IMO, though I think knowing he was typically the stronger man dictated his style somewhat, rather than just boxing conventionally, which he was perfectly good at.

 

this is a very good point

 

Id like to know what Froch does, he seems like one of the fittest fighters about now. no coidcidence he doesnt weight swing either. Does he lift? all calesthetics?

 

Yeah Froch is pretty oldschool and espouses the merits of his hill sprints.

 

used to do a lot of track running myself and Hill sessions are maybe the hardest form of training out there. proper timed sequences with increasing distance / pace with reducing recoverys.

I used to feel like **** after, but my brother would throw up after literally every single one

 

lift weights occasionally but mostly bodyweight exercise
Does a variety of sprints 60-100m, hill sprints mixed with 3 -7 mile running

 

and yoga/pilates

 

Jones Jr was always open to the jab. Montell Griffin used it well in their first fight to stop Roy rampaging through. Ruiz always had a good one and used it to offset his lack of natural gifts.

 

Tyson spent a few years being inactive and bodybuilding in prison. He was never going to reach the same level of conditioning as his prime early days