The all things technical thread.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by slip&counter, Feb 5, 2012.


  1. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fighters stamina and fighters generally have got shitter because of numbers participation. the more people fighting, the bigger the pool of talent and athletic ability. you cant take a guy with **** natural stamina and make him do modern or old school training and expect to see a massive increase in his ability because it was never there.

    The fact I heard that shocked me and really shows why standards, particularly in america have dropped, "that in the 1950s in New York State, there were more registered professional fighters than there are in the whole of america today"
     
  2. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Finally, someone talking sense:good
     
  3. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Body has to be accustomed to the weight so no surprise. But moving up and down weight classes is going to have a negative effect on the body.

    Guys like Hatton did bodybuilding routines so he is an example of poor strength training IMO
     
  4. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well im of the opinion that fighters now are way less fit, but it has as much to do with modern diets, weight swings, the notions of 10 week training camps yet staying out of the gym for 46 weeks a year as it is to do with S+C.

    I do think modern S+C is overated though, because its sometimes trying to get a certain style of fighter fit for a style he never employs.
     
  5. I think it taught them a lesson to ease back on the weights.

    Either that or just find an old, shite opponent to beat up on like Audley in his next fight.

    Hatton's strength training suited him IMO, though I think knowing he was typically the stronger man dictated his style somewhat, rather than just boxing conventionally, which he was perfectly good at.
     
  6. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this is a very good point
     
  7. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Id like to know what Froch does, he seems like one of the fittest fighters about now. no coidcidence he doesnt weight swing either. Does he lift? all calesthetics?
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Hill sprints are a corner stone of Froch's fitness regime.

    He hits the steep inclines when he's already tired so he can give out "30 seconds of hell" to anyone he hurts late. See Taylor. Man that was thrilling. I bizarrely listened to it on the radio.
     
  9. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Yeah Froch is pretty oldschool and espouses the merits of his hill sprints.
     
  10. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Froch and Calzaghe are pretty similar in the way they train. Calzaghe's road work was the bedrock of his legendary stamina.
     
  11. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    used to do a lot of track running myself and Hill sessions are maybe the hardest form of training out there. proper timed sequences with increasing distance / pace with reducing recoverys.

    I used to feel like **** after, but my brother would throw up after literally every single one :lol:
     
  12. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lift weights occasionally but mostly bodyweight exercise
    Does a variety of sprints 60-100m, hill sprints mixed with 3 -7 mile running
     
  13. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and yoga/pilates
     
  14. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Jones Jr was always open to the jab. Montell Griffin used it well in their first fight to stop Roy rampaging through. Ruiz always had a good one and used it to offset his lack of natural gifts.
     
  15. izmat

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    Tyson spent a few years being inactive and bodybuilding in prison. He was never going to reach the same level of conditioning as his prime early days