The all things technical thread.

Yeah. I just think he's move diverse. I know its a cliche to now say he doesn't do anything great, but he's good at everything, but I believe that will be the difference against Manny. Manny does excel in certain areas, but I just dont think they are conducive to this fight/opponent to make the difference.

I'll be honest, I have never been convinced by Manny on the front foot. Through all his apparent improvments I have always kept it in the back of my mind that he's been doing his thing against deliberate aggressive fighters who come foward and create his offense. I think the Marquez rematch, which was after his apparent improvements, showed he still had problems with being drawn foward and brought onto counters. Even Cotto, who is not really a noted counter puncher to my mind, managed to counter him coming in, so I've never been convinced those issues were behind him.

Bradley has proven he can take it on the outside when his best advantages dont lie on the inside (Peterson)

 

I'm backing Bradley to win, it will be his most complete display it will be his greatest night. He's got a bit of everything and i can't help but think Manny's legs are giving up on him and Bradley can fight going forwards and back. For me it will start tense and by midway i believe people will start to see the end of Manny Pacquiao's career.

Bradley isn't have a massive camp, he's gonna start in around a month/month and half's time and spar all different fighters who who contain at least one element of Pac's skillset.

 

Bradley will win. He is tough, has excellent powers of recovery, has above average handspeed with a particularly quick and sharp right hand counter, and is confident in giving more than one look in a way that Cotto never has been IMO, and the likes of Clottey, Margarito and Hatton were simply unable to do (Hatton at his best was a far more rounded and on point package, the other two one dimensional weight cutters of the highest order) so I think, bar Marquez (and we all know how that went) Bradley will give Pacqiuao problems that no one else has given him for some time. Mosley showed Pacqiuao's rhythm could be negated by any form of evasive movement. Marquez showed how stepping back and waiting for his spots again totally shut down Pacman. Bradley moves in, out and around well, and can also maintain a decent output to be winning rounds. Bradley isn't all that deliberately evasive though, so Pacqiuao will get his licks in.

I'm thinking more 115-113 than 118-110 (how I had the 3rd Marquez fight) and I imagine Timmy will be stung at some point and have to summon something from deep before ad******g and finding his way into the fight again later. Pacqiuao has a great engine but will descend into the one dimensional hoped he used to be. He falls over himself to land the left hand when the opportunity doesn't present itself. He feints well and walks people into his shots, but I don't think Bradley will be caught too often with this. He'll measure behind the jab, rather than lead with hooks. And then Pacqiuao's patterns will become predictable. Notice that Manny's most inspirational bursts of punching and sustained assault have come when he was found his way into a fight already. He reaches the summit in about 9 and, more often that not as of late, has eased off in the last few whilst having the ability to spring up again if he fancies a finish.

If Pacqiuao wins this I guarantee Bradley will have forces him to do something pretty special.

As for Bute Vs Ward, it's one of a very few fights featuring any combination of today's fighters that I would be genuinely excited to see. Bute will show Ward things he hasn't seen. Ward has the potential to shut Bute down in ways that would seemingly take away some of Lucian's strengths.

Both have incorporated pure stealth into their game. Bute with his punching, which he catches his man mid-rhythm with quick, accurate shots that can really render his man silly, and Ward with his canny, in many ways Chang-like inside game and ability to come off better going in and out.

Would be brilliant, with Kasparov-level chess and moments of excitement. I rate Ward higher than Bute, and really rate his game, but something is screaming Bute K.O. I admire some of the things Bute does, but really am not sold on him beating a straight up force like Ward. But I think he can land and land well, as I don't think Ward can constantly break ground without being timed, as I don't think he has the sting to make Bute lose poise down the stretch.

Of course, Ward is so well-rounded I can see him winning a decision. And I hope he would if the fight came off

 

Adjusti ng :-(

 

Even if Timbo wins... what makes you think he's going to get the decision?

 

He's slick and black, judges love all that.

 

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I was of course joking, but nice riposte :good

 

it was a cheap shot, but i just happened to be on you tube lookin for somethin to watch and was scrollin past that one

 

And that decision irks me every time I think about it :fire

 

If you wanna get tecnal about it, Rocky couldn't carry my jockstrap.

 

Where you been ya' *****?