The all things technical thread.

Donaire IMO. Not many great ones around at the mo'.

 

What does everyone think for how often Tyson fought and how it honed his development.

18 times in the first 12 months.

28 times in the first two years - including gaining the WBC Belt and about to capture the WBA.

Was it a good thing, did Tyson progress technically, should he have fought more or less.

What have happened if he took the path of the current prospects and there activity rate.

 

How was a guy like Tyson supposed to get good enough sparring and progress with a similar activity to guys like David Price? He didn't have the money to bring them in and I doubt anybody wants to pay him to be a sparing partner for long because of how deadly he was so his team did the right thing getting him fights and getting them often and it benefited him. He was getting valuable experience of actual fighting, of being in the dressing room before a fight, coping with expectations, building a fan base and putting the fear of God inside most of his future opponents because every other week he had knocked out another guy. It gave him a reason to be in the gym the whole time leaning and remaining sharp.

Having lots of fights is great, people get comfortable in the ring and gain experience. Carlos Baldomir wouldn't of beaten Zab and maybe not even Gatti without his experience. Everybody is different and some prospects get worn out by the number of fights they have but that could be any number of things other than getting hit to much and not getting the recovery time. There clearly wasn't a problem for a young Tyson though and he wasn't getting into wars because he was a KO machine with a good defence.

 

Ok thanks for your reply, do you think current prospects would be able to fight 3 times every 2 months.

 

Dont know if any of you have ever seen these, a series of instructional vidoes with a young David Lemiuex. Really clear & informative about the fundamentals. There are 18 videos in total, well worth a watch imho.

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwyRqHn9p9w&feature=relmfu[/ame]

 

Tyson Kalule's switch to southpaw: doesn't look too comfortable IMO, though it's inadvertently made him think less about punching himself out (or was that intentional as well?)

Maybe he'll grow into it, but for me making him unsure is not the way to tighten up his defence. Rogan's wild rushes still made him react badly, though big men always do look bad under fire I guess. Good at clinching to get himself together though.

Not sold on the adjustment, but a decent showing from Tyson nonetheless, despite seemingly being outspends until he started to hurt Rogan.

 

Defending the jab & countering

Don Curry does a great job taking away the taller McCrory's jab. He keeps a high guard & not only blocks the jab, he also parries a lot with his right hand.

Curry start timing the jab & is able to slip inside & outside it, landing counters with both hands. The knockdown & penultimate punch in the 2nd round is a peach, Don steps inside the jab & uncorks a picture perfect left hook.

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Don's best performance imo, albeit against a good stylistic match up. Its a bit of a cliche but he really was a master boxer, a great blend of talent & technique.

One thing that always strikes me about Don is his guard, very high & forward with his thumbs towards his face.

 

think he l;eft a lot of himself in the sauna too.

plus suggestions of 400 amateur fights maybe contributed o him burning out

 

I think Froch is a very good finisher.

 

Marquez is a very solid finisher. Works the angles for punches beautifully.