The All-time H2h Only Rankings

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It's obvious that RJJ is the greatest Junior Welter ever.....

 

Ali was always vulnerable to a good left hook, even in his early days. He fought with his hands low and relied on his reflexes, and often paid for it in his early days, as he was rocked and dropped a few times by mid-level fighters because he got careless. A prime Ali just pre-exhile was a much better fighter, smarter, but he still fought with a similar style, a few adjustments.

Against Tyson, he's facing a deadly puncher with a great arsenal of punches, one he can't afford to make a stupid mistake against. If Ali fights the perfect fight early on and gets to frustrating Tyson by the mid-rounds he could cruise to a Decision, but I doubt he'd stay on his feet the entire time. Ali's defensive flaws could easily come into play though, as Tyson was a better puncher than anyone Ali ever faced, and had the ability to get inside the jab of Ali like no other with his head movement.

Both were vulnerable to certain tactics, both are capable of winning and losing this fight.

As for Ali vs the other big Heavies, I just think Holmes's longer, sharper jab would be key against Ali, who, despite having better movement, isn't quite as technically sound as Holmes. Ali's movement and speed is capable of giving Holmes trouble as well though.

Against Lewis, Ali faces a larger, skilled boxer-puncher with good inside skills. I have a hard time seeing Ali box circles around someone with not only the physical advantages Lewis holds, but again, technically he would be difficult for Ali to solve.

Still, Ali's movement and speed could prove key in all these bouts, and he's capable of winning them all. Ali should've been mentioned among my HW choices.

 

HEAVY holyfield
CRUISER holyfield
LIGHT HEAVY mattew saad muhammud
SUP MIDDLE RJJ
MIDDLE monzon/hagler
L.MIDDLE hearns
WELTER robinson
LIGHT WELTER arron pryor
LIGHTWEIGHT duran
SUP FEATHER alexis argullero
FEATHER salvador sanchez
SUPER BANTAM r. marquez
BANTAM jofre
SUPER FLY tapia
FLY cant deciede
LIGHT FLY AND STRAW ricardo lopez

 

So what has Pac done at LW and LWW to make you think he's the best ever head to head? You'd take Pac to beat Whitaker at LW? Chavez? Ike Williams?

 

Why ask:bbb You know the answer.

 

I just find it amusing to see what he'll come up with.

 

It's not what Pac has done. Thread starter said don't look at records just head to head. Just wait till Pac Prove it after DLH & Hatton.

 

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you still have to see the Proof after Pac beat DLH & Hatton.

 

HEAVY: Mike Tyson, with Ali and Holmes making a strong bid
CRUISER: Evander Holyfield
LIGHT-HEAVY: Ezzard Charles
SUPER-MIDDLE: Roy Jones Jr.
MIDDLE: Hagler
LIGHT-MIDDLE: Thomas Hearns
WELTER: Sugar Ray Robinson
LIGHT-WELTER: Whitaker
LIGHT: Duran
SUPER-FEATHER: Chavez
FEATHER: Sandy Saddler
SUPER-BANTAM: Wilfredo Gomez
BANTAM: Ruben Olivares
SUPER-FLY: Johnny Tapia
FLY: Jimy Wilde
LIGHT-FLY: Jung-Koo Chang
STRAW/MINIMUM: Ricardo Lopez

 

Heavy: Ali
Cruiser: Marciano
LH: Spinks
SM: Jones & Calz
Mid: Monzon
Welter: SRR
JR Welt: Pryor
Light: Duran/ Whitaker/ Floyd
Feather: Sanchez