The Allen/Ortiz fight is a complete joke.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, Nov 25, 2016.


  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don't mind this fight, want to see if Ortiz has power that everyone claims, if so you will see a knock out. If not ppl will just say hes a bum . for me it will show allen is tough as everyone says he is. Im not expecting an Allen win but he can go the distance I think.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    No way he goes the distance.
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Anyone that survives Wlad sparring sessions without getting knocked senseless can go the distance,i consider Joshua a harder hitter than anyone as well, and whyte hit him with some hammers. Ortiz really has to pound him out,who knows what will happen if Ortiz doesn't get a early k.o ? I would say Ortiz rep is more on the line here,personally im going to expect it a 12 rounder based on I was not sold on Ortiz before his last fight as far as being an unstoppable power house.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did you actually watch the Allen/Whyte fight? Seriously Allen's skillset is comical, and he has no power at all. I like the kid, wish him the best of luck but he's going to get severely injured in this fight. Also what does Joshua being a hard hitter have anything to do with Whyte stunning him once in the fight and then getting completely dominated after not hurting him once. All you can take from that is Allen has a better chin than Joshua.
     
  5. GALVATRON

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    Again you are not paying attention. Re read what I wrote, Joshua uses Allen for sparring because he can be durable.I don't know how hard Joshua hits in sparring I know wlad hits very hard and have seen him practically tko Izu Ugonah on vid.

    Come back after the fight and then say wow Allen lasted 12 rounds.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I misunderstood what you said. It's not about me paying attention, you need to be more coherent. "i consider Joshua a harder hitter than anyone as well, and whyte hit him with some hammers", I thought you were saying that Whyte hit Joshua not Allen. Whyte's power isn't really impressive to me, we saw his power displayed against Lewison too, nothing spectacular, I can't really take anything from sparring either because it's not the same thing in the ring with no headgear and smaller gloves. If Allen lasts 12 rds he's going to take severe brain damage, I want him to just take a dive, fk Eddie over, he should pull a Martin lmfao, fk Hearn and fk Ortiz.
     
  7. GALVATRON

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    I disagree whyte is very heavy handed, I think it has a 70% chance of going 12 based on both guys last fight. I don't really mind a k.o from Ortiz to make the Joshua fight more marketable,but I have seen no improvements from Ortiz ,hes hit his ceiling . I cant imagine Allen not going to be better getting good work in with the Whyte camp.
     
  8. ellerbe

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    Please bet on it if you truly believe this, because the odds will be incredibly in your favor. Allen should be fighting Lewison not Ortiz. I guess since he lost his 0 he doesn't care anymore, and is content and being British level. He also should be fighting at cruiser not heavyweight.
     
  9. Soloman

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    This is an 8 round fight guys. So actually ortiz has 8 to try and get him outta there.
     
  10. BOGART

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    Allen has almost no chance at beating Ortiz but atleast Ortiz is staying pretty active and its an 8 round fight buried on the undercard, not much to expect in that spot anyways.

    I've seen Ortiz being mentioned as possibly meeting Whyte if he gets past Chisora, that would be an interesting fight if it does happen.
     
  11. chitownfightfan

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    Ortiz has been ducking Fedosov since before Jennings.
     
  12. BOGART

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    This would be a terrific action fight. Too bad Fedosov has been pretty inactive since the ESPN tournament, he's a fun heavyweight.
     
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  13. Serge

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    Allen has a piece of rock for a head but he's going to take a horrible beating here. It's a terrible fight. Allen has no offence. He's a walking punchbag. He's going to end up punch-drunk before he hits his 30s at this rate. He's a really nice guy and I'd hate to see that happen.
     
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    He's been inactive b/c he'd been waiting on GBP to finalize the deal they had since Vindondo. He overpriced himself at 100K. But then he says he'll take the December date for 100K, but they give Jennings more than double that just to ensure a crackable chin is in front of him, and no OH rights that could possibly derail the hypetrain. At least nothing with any real sting.
    Then, Fedo goes as low as 65K and they sign Thompson, while still under supsicion of using masking agents and banned diuretics. Fair play to Thomspson, he's a hard worker and doesnt care to be embarrassed so long as he's got an outsiders chance of exposing a flaw. But, at 44/45??? His name value has long since lost it's brand. Sure a couple fluke KOs where he survived Price and exposed his freeze factor and not being the lazier of the 2 lazy SOBS in the ring vs Solis....but even Chazz Witherspoon, a name that rates quite highly on Tiger's resume, would tame the Tiger at this stage.

    Point being....when GBP promoted his career, they surely saw something negative to spend more money on guys who don't really prepare Ortiz from a Potvetkin, or a Joshua, or even a Whyte ffs.

    This guys a convicted steroid user who's claim to fame is coming in with absurd amounts of synthetic T in his blood and knocking out a generally considered durable Koyode.

    I cant wait til an ill prepared Ortiz comes face to face with a Potvetkin or even a Pulev or Ustinov type.
     
  15. ellerbe

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    I feel the same way, I hope Hearn is paying him well, especially since Allen has fking heart. If whyte had balls he could haev made the allen fight a barnburner, but he was scared to stand his ground against a weak puncher with no offense in Allen lol. Allen isn't the type of guy who will pull a charles martin and that worries me.