The Andy Ruiz Dilemna, is it really possible to be fat and fit?

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Can you be fat and fit?

  1. Yes, for a small percentage of people.

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  2. No, you might be somewhat fit, but you would have no gut if you were in optimal condition.

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  1. miniq

    miniq Tyson Fury Undisputed HW Champion 18/5/24 Full Member

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    I'd pay $50 PPV to see Andy Ruiz run 800m hell even 400m.

    Then do it again with a McDonalds at the end and see if he goes faster
     
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  2. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Another one is Juan Baby Bull Diaz. He was chubby as a kid -as hard as he trained -even swam a lot -he couldn't get that baby fat off of him.

    Yet when fight time came he threw from bell to bell. I loved Baby Bull - real sad the way he couldn't get tv time after his last loss to JMM II I think?

    He never could find that means to gain power, so he made up for it in stamina...again, with a slight roll on his midsection.
     
  3. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    That aint fair, U can't show him the Golden Arches...that his PED!:eatingburger
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. tinman

    tinman VIP Member Full Member

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    You can actually be in decent cardiovascular shape while being overweight. But medically speaking there is no such thing as healthy and fat. So yea, guys like Ruiz can actually go rounds and not tire, but they will have health problems.

    Abdominal fat is terrible for your health. Any doctor would tell you that.
     
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  6. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That is untrue. Extra abdominal fat is correlated with worse health outcomes.
    Which means on average. But if what you said was true, Ruiz & everyone over a certain amount of abdominal fat will always have health problems. This is demonstrably false.

    Some people look fit & lean & are in bad condition. Others have a genetic propensity for illness & get sick & die young.
    Some folks who have a belly demonstrably have little health problems-less than an average fellow-& live to a ripe old age.
    If you are healthy all your life it is not gonna be luck.
    Some combination of genetics & doing the other things overwhelmingly correct insulate some from problems.

    Such as refined flour is not good for you & converts into simple sugars & causes insulin spikes...
    But much of the world eats white rice as their staple & most common food in their diet.
    They may still be very healthy-& on average better than the average American-due to things like a good diet & not overdoing food overall, more whole foods, more exercise...

    These things are not simple as in one bad habit always torches health.
    SO many factors including all dietary & excerise habits, genetics , stress, social factors, drug & alcohol usage, pollution...go into health outcomes.
     
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