The Anthony Joshua vs Parker prediction thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by heerko koois, Jan 15, 2018.


AJ or Parker?

Poll closed Mar 16, 2018.
  1. AJ

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  2. Parker

    22.5%
  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    parker wont see rd 7
     
  2. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People keep saying this but forget Parker also gasses and slows down.
    Parker must conserve energy and also tire AJ out somehow, we saw in the Wlad fight he can come back from the brink of defeat and steamroller someone. Also people saying he gassed vs Takam are talking nonsense.

    AJ will crack him between rounds 6 and 9. Anything after that will be an AJ UD all day.
     
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  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Guess we might as well just annoint AJ the winner then huh?

    The fact is Parker is easily the second best hw AJ has faced. He offers a different skillset from Wlad, and a higher level from anyone else he faced. The odds offered are undervaluing his chances. Do bookies make money? Sure, but like all human endevours they are susceptible to flaws and capable observers can take advantage of them.

    Like I said in my last thread, the last time there was a HW tournament like this, the favorite(Tyson) lost in the first round, and the guy who replaced him as favorite(Holyfield) lost in the last round.

    AJ probably wins but anyone who thinks it is a no brainier is fooling themselves.
     
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  4. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    You're also assuming that Joshua's only way to be beat is by tiring him down?
    Have you watched the fights that Joshua struggled in earlier in his career?

    Smaller men have had success by pressuring AJ and taking the fight to him. He doesn't like going backwards and he is there to be hit when doing so (see Whyte in later times).

    Parker can spoil the fight, just as AJ can.

    You also forget that Parker is one of, if not the best body puncher in the HW division.
    He might not be the hardest puncher, but his handspeed to the body is unmatched and that can also cause Joshua issues if Parker can use his height to his advantage.

    Styles make fights.
     
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  5. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Parker is hitting the canvas
     
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  6. Scyson

    Scyson Active Member banned Full Member

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    This is a boxing forum full of knowledgeable boxing fans apparently. I can’t believe there’s people who’ve actually voted for Parker!

    Read it again, it’s not who you want to win (I get that some may not like AJ) it’s who WILL win.
     
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  7. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Parker ends Ajs KO streak in a losing effort.
     
  8. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right. Smaller men may of had a small amount of success but they still get overwhelmed and stopped. Parker has not been his usual bull-dog KO artist when he steps up in level of opponent.

    You are also underestimating Joshua's inside game.

    It will be a competitive fight but theres a reason AJ is the heavy favourite. Like I said, Parker to fold from punishment rounds 6 - 9.

    Styles do make fights and that's why 2 come forward guys will end with the smaller one getting overpowered and stopped.
     
  9. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Heavyweight boxing is due for a huge upset victory. We haven't seen one in years. Parker is just the man to do that. Parker to win by a round 8 KO with Joshua getting an uppercut that sends his whole body over the top rope like its high jump.
     
  10. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I no have favorite at all. it's an exciting 50/50 where anything could happen.

    The only reason to favor Joshua is semantical. No one's presented a technical or stylistic reason to favor him they just discuss his laurels as if there are many parallels between the way the men AJ has defeated boxed and the way JP boxes. I'm not sold on the idea that besting Wlad's one-two clinch game means anything when talking about Parker.

    That said, the same goes for Parker. He says he's the chin to take Joshua's best which is kind of like admitting he's going to need to rely on durability to beat Josh. Fighting fatmen Ruiz and spaghetti armed Fury didn't really prove anything relative to Joshua much less he has the constitution to do twelve with the unified champ.


    I think Parker has better posture and better general awareness of his position juxtaposed to his opponent's but he's slower than Josh so it won't matter unless he can do what he says he can do and weather the storm long enough to take advantage of Joshua's bad posture.


    AJ looks great, like an ideal picture of a boxer, when he's moving around the ring posing here and there, but whenever an exchange is initiated that's when Stiff earns that nickname. He loses sense of posture, looks more like a WWE wrestler than a boxer, regardless of if he started the exchange or if the exchange was started by his opponent, moving forward or backward. Once his posture has gone stiff it causes his punches to fall out of position. I mean the ideal placement and distance juxtaposed to the opponent. Once he's out of position he's has to adjust his punch structure to make up for the difference in gapping. That's why AJ seems to struggle with judging distance at times. It's not that he can't judge the distance properly it's that he's falling out of position as he throws so his punches end up being behind the changes in distance. Since he has to adjust his structure his powerline is forced to become impure. The powerline is how energy flows through the body, it is exactly how the bones connect to distribute energy generated by the legs into the knuckle and perhaps more importantly how boxers deal with Newton's third law. If you strike a face with 500 Ft-Lbs in your fist does that face not strike your fist with 500 Ft-Lbs back at the same moment? Yes it does, but with a pure powerline there is no where for the energy to go back to forcing that face to absorb the full 500 Ft-Lbs more than enough to shatter it. That's why boxers who **** up their structure like Wilder or Floyd break their hands, they generate way more energy than their bones can handle if their bones are forced to absorb it. This explains why Joshua struggles to get one punch KOs. It's not a lack of power, look at the size of him and think of simple physics, dude has more power than most handguns guaranteed. It's his punch structure failing him. Those hooks might look good but they ain't right. Think about what I just explained, his structure, caused by his posture and position, loses energy on it's way to it's victim causing him to have to put in more work to get the KO. Of course this is why AJ tires earlier than most would like. He's putting in the energy to KO people and failing to connect that energy in his own skeletal system. Joshua probably has stellar cardio he just needs to learn how to move properly. No amount of running will save you from tiring from punching wind, the more energy you have to put in the more it wastes, and everything divided by 0 is 0 even infinity.

    If Parker can handled the initial exchange then there is no doubt in my mind he'll be able to capitalize on Joshua's flaws and put him down. That's a big if though and what makes the fight so exciting.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Here's my post from last night, on another thread.

    Okay... fine, Parker looked bad against Fury, that's because Fury is a slick defensive backfoot counter puncher who everyone looks bad against. He didn't look all that swell against Ruiz Jr. and Takam, well they both were pressure fighters against Parker at least, because they knew they needed to go all out to get the decision against him in Australia.

    Tell me, is AJ that fleet footed if Parker charges him like a bull throughout? Can his chin hold up to non stop flush overhand rights? Is AJ a Salido like pressure fighter? Is he willing to be and risk eating a counter from Parker?

    AJ can fight in 2 ways, cautiously walking down his opponents behind his jab using one twos looking for the KO, and standing in the middle of the ring landing his jab and one twos on a fighter coming forward, not too many wrinkles is it?

    Parker can box off the backfoot effortlessly, and throwing volume while doing so, he can hold his own in the middle of the ring, fight coming forward behind his jab using one twos, or like a violent marauder looking to bomb his opponent out of the ring. That's at least two more wrinkles than AJ. However.... he knows he's not going to get the nod in the UK against AJ From The UK, that eliminates the first three options, in theory, and forces Parker to be the come forward marauder. But wait, how about this? Parker plays the role of the counter puncher for the first 4 or 5, until AJ starts gassing, then he turns into the come forward marauder and bombs AJ out.:deal:

    AJ's power isn't all that, that should be pretty obvious by now, so in theory,Parker, who seems to have a solid chin can probably take his best shots, which won't be landing all that flush, for at least as long as Breazeale did, maybe even Takam, and that leaves a lot of room for error on AJ's part against a young, fresh, athletic fighter like himself.

    This fight truly is fascinating, and will not be easy for either man, that being said.



    Parker KO5.:ggg
     
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He's basically the antithesis of GGG and Kovalev.
     
  13. infini IV

    infini IV Dillian Whyte. KTFO like I said he would Full Member

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    I thnk its 60/40 in favour of AJ, however if the AJ that fought Whyte turns up he will get stopped. And i only edge it to AJ because i think he has more power, other then that i dont think he does anything better then parker and has worse stamina
     
  14. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    good breakdown and analysis of the fight
     
  15. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Joshua Ko8.

    Parker just doesn't hit very hard, outgunned!
     
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