The Anti-American sentiment on here...

I said it took action with pearl harbour as it became clear that Hitle would pursue global domination, so whats youre point??

Thrown fuel on the fire??? A fire that raged long before the Us involvement and would burn undoubtedly if we werent there. Ignoring the energy issues is ridiculous and what a glorious day it would be if the worlds demand for oil ceased or is dramatically reduced:good Then the middle east could freely collapse on itself and who would they blame?? The US and the rest of the world and anyone but themselves no doubt.


Wars and fighting is human nature and will likely never stop, yet the United states isn't the world oppressor and isnt the root cause for violence in the middle east. I'd love to see us out of there completely and watch what will happen we the Us exits, think the violence and bloodshed will stop???

 

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But seriously (and for the last time) I'm canadian, I don't like american football, i am a soccer nut (sorry I call it soccer), we are not related and he is not my alias (or vice versa).

And if you really must know my grandfather fought in italy as well.

 

I respect Calzaghe and damned for sure like Kessler b/c he is a very smart fighter. They dont need to come here to prove they are good-great fighters. But they need to come here to put that stamp on it. That USA grade seal of approval. The US is the MECCA of boxing. Period. I mean every great fighter of any era fought here. The ones that did not are not as well remembered and respected. Like when I seen footage of Nikolawhatever Locche. I was like damn this guy was Pernell/Floyd before them. I mean the guy literally was stiff as a brick and just moved his head and made the other guy look like a complete ******. Best defensive fighter I have ever seen with little effort. It is what it is. For the STAMP you have to come here. Thats like being the best golfer and not participating in whatever the big golf thing is. Or being the best soccer player and playing indoor arena soccer.

 

all good Some Euros get all defensive over calling it soccer. It's all the same to me.

 

That eduction has already happened for a lot of the rest of the world, Brazil 100% independent of imported fuel for cars. Japan creates 25% of it fuel needs from renewable energy sources.

The US entered WW2 ONLY when Peral harbour was attacked and not because of Hitler as a threat, they had no choice they were attacked by an Axis power. The Battle of Britain was what broke the Luftwaffe's back and that took place between the10th July and 31st October 1940. It was called a WORLD war because it involved more than one country and more than one front, it required all of the countries to fight and win that war, it was very unlikely that any one country could have prevailed against Germany.

By your logic on the middle east, a foreigner can go to the US and shoot someone because you guys are already doing so and have done so for years, that makes no sense either.

 

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Who the **** are you?? Just another idiot?? Ok good for you. I was only making a point about WW2 as the part of the strength of our nations heritage as a melting pot and the without the United States the world might be quite a different place had Hitler succeeded. I'm proud of my grandfather's service, the service of many other US soldiers, and the role in which our nation played in ridding the planet of a ambitious dictator like Hitler.

You dont have to like, admire, or respect it or agree with my opinions. Yet, the facts are that many, many, many great men and US soldiers laid their lives on the line over and over and played a large role in helping the world be free to carry on in their own manner.

 

oooooookkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaayyyyyyy........no need to take everything so serious. I was having a laugh at your names being so similar. I couldn't care less about you, him, your grandad, patton, ww1-2, vietnam or any other war. I will care when it directly affects me.

It's only an internet forum. why so mad:huh

 

ok people if you want to understand the reasons that countries act in the way they do or would like to understand war in the context of human nature read Gwyn Dyer's "War" and Carrol Quigley's "the evolution of civilizations". Both are board looks at the over arching forces and patterns that govern societies, both start from prehistory and move to present day and niether is focused on the states. I think if some of you had a better understanding of what the sociological and physical forces that drive super powers are (or just knew more about how the world works) then you wouldn't be so quick to hate.

sorry I know I just recommended a couple of sociology books on a boxing forum but given the debate I though it would be a propriate.

 

It seems you are attempting to spin you're own web with my statements/perspective.

When Japan, as part of Hitlers alliance, attacked the US, what was that?? A threat:think :think :think Not to mention dealing with one continent under hitler was gonna be what?? A picnic?? Think he would have stopped there?? STFU! With you're spin.

Dont act as if the world has already solved it's enrgy issues either:good It's just beginning and the transition will take time.

I dont support the US being over there but convienient that you ignore there terrorist support and netwroks that exits there. Again, stick you're assumptions and spin, up the wazoo.

 

We should be proud of what we did in WW2, (even though we resisted any contribution when Churchill himself was SCREAMING for help), but even I can see how offensive it is when idiot Americans who have no idea of history start screaming about how we won the war and saved the world.

Another poster had it right, it was the Battle of Britain which crippled the Nazi war machine. The heaviest lifting in the European war was done by the English and the Russkies. But the problem is that because of our education system, millions of Americans blindly assume that we "won" the war, whereas in truth we were a part of the winning coalition, and that coalition didn't even so much win, as Hitler lost. It was only because of a couple of huge mistakes in his leadership that Europe could even stand up to Hitler. Without them, everybody would have been ****ed. Throughout 1940, Churchill himself had no idea how it was possible to win the war.

 

Be an internet forum or in person disrespect is disrespect and it sure felt like an unjustified stab on you're behalf.:yep

I prefer to keep debate civil but will fight fire with fire when the insults or attacks start flying:good

Would hope that we can move on.

 

My apologies. We most certainly can:good

 

It wasnt the US alone, NO DOUBT, but the coalition certainly did better when the Us got involved. Many, many, many US solidiers gave their lives and did QUITE A LOT IN CONTRIBUTION and did plenty of heavy lifting. Why was Churchill screaming for help, because they had everything under control?? The US made a huge impact and the war may have damn well gone the other way without it.
It seems much more idiotic to believe otherwise.

 

Done:good My apologies as well, i do have a small temper, sometimes