The Antonio Margarito-Miguel Cotto analysis thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Samurai, May 15, 2008.


  1. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Lets hear them. :smoke
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    the key punches for Cotto will be the jab and left hook. he will use them extensively. Cotto will try to keep Marg off with the jab. Margo won't be able to counter the jab so he will try to get inside between Cotto's sequences and launch uppercuts, and cotto will try to counter them with left hooks and uppercuts of his own. Expect Margo to be the agressor and try to pin Cotto against the ropes, also using wide shots to keep Cotto in front of him.

    At some point i expect Cotto to land a body head combo that will change the fight in his favour from then on. Cotto by decision in a great fight.

    my two cents for now
     
  3. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Pharoah, Ive always respected you as a poster but I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly regarding Cotto's jab. Margarito is much to tall and long for Cotto to have repeated success with his jab. The jab is Margarito's key in this bout, for he needs to fight tall and keep the distance large to control Cotto. I fully believe that Miguel will find little success with his jab early and pretty much abandon it by the middle rounds.

    I do however agree that the left hook is Cotto's bread and butter in this bout, both downstairs and upstairs as a lead, and more importantly as a counterpunch. We all know that Margarito is going to apply some serious pressure and Cotto is going to need to counterpunch effectively by slipping to his left and coming back with his momentum with powerful hooks. Slipping Margarito's punches to the right brings me to the next most important punch for Miguel, the straight right. He'll need to be very effective with this punch as well.

    As far as stylistically, Margarito will be best suited to fight tall and keep the distance large, to get full extension on his punches while staying away from Miguel and his shorter, more compact and more powerful punches. Keeping the distance large will also allow Margarito to land straights and considering he does throw looping punches sometimes, he wont have to worry about counters.

    Cotto will be best suited in this bout to fight fire with fire and come forward at Margarito a la a young Duran. By swarming he will have every advantage on the inside as long as he is wary of Antonio's uppercut. He has to smother Margarito and keep the bout on the inside so that he doesnt sit around eating punches and lands some of his own. He is much more sound technically. He's a better counterpuncher and his punches are much more compact, so a toe to toe inside battle favors Cotto heavily, as long as he has the stamina to do so. Also, to me, it seems that Cotto has better one punch power, but again, hell need to be in range to land, so he's going to have to swarm, or counter effectively if Margarito gets overzealous.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    its a very different outtake on the fight than mine but a pretty good one. I feel that Margarito will be leaning in, and that though Margarito has a huge reach advantage on Cotto, Cotto will be able to use his greater speed in order land his jab and either step back and keep Margarito at a distance, or move in and smother him. Cotto doesn't have to worry about MArgarito countering his jab with right hands, which i why i think he'll use it extensively.

    We'll see :good
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Cotto beats Margo's long lean body like a pinata and possibly stops him late. If not Cotto by UD.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I respect you Guru but I couldn't disagree more. First Margo doesn't have a good jab nor good footwork so fighting tall isn't an option for him. His only chance in this fight is to make it a war and pressure Cotto and bully and rough him up. If he decides to fight tall against a superior boxer in Cotto he will get schooled it's not his game.

    Cotto's best gameplan would be to box Margo use good movement and work behind his jab to set up his left hook which he should have no problem landing on Margo's long lean body. He shouldn't have any problem coutering Margo's shots or beating him to the punch. The only way I see Cotto losing is if he gets careless, tries to beat Margo at his own game and decides to trade because that would play right into Margo's hands.

    Margo wants a war and Cotto is smart enough to know that he shouldn't stand and trade with the bigger man just box him instead.
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    You just had to call the Mexican a piñata. :-(
     
  8. Mikey

    Mikey I'm An Uzi Lover Full Member

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    I'd be surprised if Cotto stops him but I do expect him to win a wide UD, his skills will just be way too much for Margarito who is pretty average to be honest, at his level already and cant see him stepping up of whats required.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :lol:
    What's your analysis?
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I agree that Cotto is too much for Margo.
     
  11. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I agree with that analysis 100%:happy

    I believe Cotto's 2 smart to be drug into a WAR with Marg. The Blueprint is out boxing him. I fully expect that Miguel Cotto proves once and for ALL who Floyd's next opponent must be:good
     
  12. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i like cotto in this fight, but he will have his work cut out for him. margarito is the worst possible matchup imo for cotto. cotto has made his name on imposing his will and making his oponents fight off of the back foot. this is the one fighter that i do not think that cotto can make back up. margarito will hold his ground and keep coming. he is hard as nails, and if cotto makes the mistake of getting drawn into a war, he may get himself into a lot of trouble. he will have to use angles and try to establish his underrated jab, and close distance, and work the body. but i don't see cotto winning by ko, but i do see a close decision.

    bottom line is with this fight no matter who the winner is , we the fans definitely are winners.

    i
     
  13. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto whoops the bum. the end.
     
  14. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He showed excellent skill in fighting Mosley off the back foot.
     
  15. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    I agree as well.. I do see Margo being the aggressor and Cotto fighting a smart fight with jabs and counter punches.. I see Margo wearing down as Cotto nails him with accurate effective punches, but I do expect Margo to hurt Cotto atleast once or twice.. Cotto 10th RD TKO..