The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

'I've always said that, if a boxer truly wants to box, they will box...they won't be distracted by other sports. This is why I feel that all the potential American Heavyweights in other sports, 90% of the time is an excuse.'...this statement I made is my argument.

I know, and have become aware that Basketball and the NFL are a bigger attraction to big guys coming out of college than boxing is. Fair enough, but I'm not naive enough to believe that all of these guys could make it big in boxing because of their athleticism, or because they can jump higher than 7 ft feet...which some people are claiming on this thread.

Like I said, if they want to box badly enough, they would box...this is why America still has a steady stream of Heavyweights taking up the sport, but they are just not good enough at this point in time.

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What? No dude, that's silly. Boxing isn't found in american public schools as a varsity sport anymore, and hasnt been for some time. And on top of that, do you think interests just come kids' way? They have to get exposure. It matters quite a bit.

 

I actually think baseball players would make better boxers.

 

And what other countries have boxing in there schools?

The UK gets no more exposure to boxing than America does.

 

what countries have boxing in schools? my ex-sports teacher was a pro boxer (only had 16 fights), became a teacher when he failed to make the grade...he tried to get boxing in our high school for the entire 4 years i was there....he was still trying when i left. the way americans on here go on you would think we were all boxing from 5 years old at first school! if you want to box in the uk, you have to actively find a gym...and pay for it!

 

Only top American was Joe Louis. Uhh Max Baer you idiot.

Oh god, just shut up.

 

Please tell me you know the difference between New York City and New York the state. Please tell me you know the difference between a boxing gym and a dance studio/martial arts gym. atsch

 

I'm pretty sure I already responded to this the first time you posted it. Look at the names of the damn gyms. 2/3rds of the list is outside of NYC, and 2/3rds of the ones in NYC are fitness gyms or martial arts gyms.

Also, the article is a bit old. I know a couple of boxing gyms opened up in the city recently, but they're not in the neighborhoods where you'd expect them. One of them is near Wall Street, and while they do real boxing training, their main clientele are bankers and lawyers who just want a tough workout. The other one opened up in an industrial area of Queens where nobody really lives, and is still 50/50 between being a boxing gym and an MMA gym (and doesn't even have a ring).

 

michinganwarrior is the prototypical American idiot, who probably does not even own a passport and thinks the world revolves around the US of A.
Maybe, just maybe we could assume somehow all these great American boxers are now playing basketball and football, or maybe there;s a simpler explanation:
a. 2/3 of Americans are obese, therefore the talent pool has shrunk.
b. Eastern Europeans did not compete on a worldwide stage before the fall of the Berlin wall.
These are two of the most important factors for dwindling US dominance in boxing.
Also, the debate on rugby vs. NFL is rather silly.
In rugby stamina is very important (just like in boxing), while in the NFL strength is needed in short bursts only, therefore rugby is a combination of stamina and strength, favouring naturally slightly slimmer athletes. NFL football players would make very poor boxers indeed (judhing by the bulging waist lines).

 

Then this begs the question - where was Europe pre 1980s? I mean there was already soccer and rugby and everything else after WWII.
So was the Calzaghe, Kessler, Froch of the 1950s, 60s, 70 and 80s?

 

I realized this is true.. Quick undeniable example.. Look at any top american heavy.. Look at any nfl player besides the kicker... All of the boxers are fat and not even in good shape. All of the nfl and majority of the nba are built like trucks. Look at past heavies that were great.. They all were in good if not great shape. Look at ****ing briggs and fast eddie..... The mexican dude with the nose..

 

and money is the number one reason. Other sports offer more money to be on the last man on a roster.. Basketball you get 500k a year if you are a complete bench warmer. Nfl 300k for a 50 dude squad.. The average boxer has to work a day job... Very few make good money. Americans love money above all else.

 

you would have to be american to know the sports atmosphere.. Boxing is on the bottom where kids that could not cut it in other sports fall back on. It's just a dying breed.

 

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Yes, because we all know Max Baer was respected...

Aside from that, hecwas a truly shocking fighter. He was atrocious.

Give me on era when America produced less warriors, post-1900. The statistics show there's never been one. America has gone soft.