The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

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  1. MichiganWarrior

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    And yet beat the **** out of Schmeling. Oh and what about Sharkey?

    More made up bull**** from you. :nut
     
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    Just because someone has a bodybuilder like physique does not mean they have stamina. American football especially requires short bursts of energy, while boxing requires both strength and long stretches of exertion.
    Also just because someone is good in one sport does not automatically translate of athletic ability in another sport. A "weak chin" comes to mind. For all we know, none of the NFL 250 pounders can take a decent hit to the chin, or can throw a decent punch.

    Like I said, a more likely explanation for decline in American heavyweight talent is that 2/3 of your population is disgustingly obese.
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

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    None, thats quite a stretch. :roll:

    http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/02-06-2010/113612-obesity-0/

    Most western countries struggle with weight moron. And 2/3rds of the US population is not "disgustingly obese". Or we wouldnt beat your ass in the olympics every 4 years.
     
  4. PetethePrince

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    Man, Europeans (Especially) Brits have a real inferiority complex when it comes to America. Either that, or they just have that much hatred. Some of the ridiculous arguments coming from that side are just hilarious. As if this doesn't make sense, as if this is merely an excuse.

    Notice how nobody mentions baseball. That's not because their isn't a potential their, but because baseball hasn't grown rapidly like basketball and the NFL has. What are your sports? Rugby, cricket, and darts? :lol:
     
  5. PetethePrince

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    What's up with all this soft stuff Jack? Like you're a supposed expert on this. And we do in sports, too. I could name names but whats the point. I think society has gone soft, especially in the USA. With terrible technical and flagrants in the NBA for breathing wrong, and then the NFL is heading towards safety which is nothing wrong but they're taking knee-jerk reactions. The players aren't that soft, though. The games have just gotten softer. And "warriors" declining in boxing is not a USA thing by a boxing thing in general. Even Mexicans "warriors" can decide that there's a legitimate reason to give in when your chances are just not there. USA still has plenty of "warriors" in boxing, even with its decline. Still... I don't see you Brits being any tougher. In fact, I think the image is that you're softer. But I'm not going to stand up and shout about it, I'd probably rather ridicule your sports and some of these terrible counter-parts (Yours have been better, but some have been atrociously off-base and in denial).
     
  6. Andrew671

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    It is an undeniable fact that the US is the fattest nation in the world.

    Also what does the olympics have to do with any of this? The US invests probably hundreds of millions of dollars per year into the olympics, yet they're bested per capita basis by countries like England, Spain or even Germany.
    If anything their dominance has been slipping. More fat people= smaller talent pool.
     
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    The Britts may not be tougher, but have you ever been to Russia. those people spend hours in freezing cold just standing in line for bread.
     
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    This article is **** poor.
    First off, obesity is not synonymous with being overweight. Being overweight is defined as having a body mass index over 25, while being obese is having a body mass index of over 30.
    It says 30% of Moscovites are overweight (Moscovites of course being a very very UNrepresantative sample of Russians as a whole).
    It says 30% of the US are OBESE.
    See the difference?
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

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    No its not

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4171160.ece

    Like I said, most western countries are struggling with weight problems across the board. The difference between the UK and the USA in obesity is negligable.

    the USOC is privately funded threw private donations. The State has nothing to do with the USA dominance.

    And per capita doesnt means ****

    2296 Total Medals

    Next closes country - 1010

    Get on our level *****. :bbb
     
  10. Andrew671

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    Sorry, but you need to check your sources for reliability.
    the article says 20% of Australians are obese.
    According to the CDC (centre for disease control) 30% of Americans are.

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    "Americans have the highest percentage of obese people in the world, (30%) followed by Mexico 6.4% behind. The top seven countries include the USA, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - all English-speaking countries. The only English-speaking country that finds itself a fair way down is Ireland.
     
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    Why not? Europeans have consistently outperformed you on per capita basis in the Olympics for decades. If you combine England, Germany, Italy and European Russia (whose pop. together would equal that of the US, their medal count would be higher)
    Why are you claiming then that Americans are somehow athletically superior? most of their population is actually disgusting fat and flabby.
     
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    if only he had chose boxing over football.....we would have a lhw champ right now.
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    The latest figures show 4 million Australians — or 26% of the adult population —are now obese compared to an estimated 25% of Americans. A further 5 million Australians are considered overweight.
    The report, Australia's Future 'Fat Bomb', from Melbourne's Baker IDI Heart and Diabetes Institute, will be presented at the Federal Government's inquiry into obesity, which comes to Melbourne today.

    http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/wellbeing/australia-now-worlds-fattest-nation-20090407-9xrv.html


    But of course you still dont get do you you moronic *****. The point is not that one country is fatter then the other its that most western nations are fat, that the difference in the USA having a 30% obesity rate, compared to the UK's 23% obesity rate is meaningless, especially considering fast food has been in America longer then anywhere else and its clear other western nations are quickly catching up.

    Goddamn you're dumb boy.
     
  14. Arran

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    fish and chips are not fast food?
     
  15. Andrew671

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    According to study published by the CDC in a scientific journal, current obesity rates in the US are 32% in men and 35% in women.
    That means you beat Australia by at least 6%.
    Try again fatty.

    "n fact, the study, which was written by officials with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), found that obesity rates among adults have risen from 13% in the early 1960s, to more than 30% in 1999, to 32% in men and 35% in women by 2007-2008. Those most recent figures are an increase of 5% in males and 2% in females from a previous study in 1999-2000."