The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

Mister Internet warrior, you are terribly wrong here. Current generation USA (including you of course) is well known for invention of following things:

1. History largest global economic crisis
2. History largest national debt (more then 83 % of GDP atm) with communist China as second major creditor and Russia as one of the major creditors too. Aka "gief mo money world, cause we need to eat our fastfood still"...
3. History largest so-called post-industrial economy with tiny real production and huge overgrown financial sector aka "let chinese work Ima gonna live on goverment financial help program or will manage some papers in the office".
4. History largest govermental programs of saving long time bankrupted national production iconas like GM just by "printing" money.
5. History largest real property crisis with hundreds of thousands homes being confiscated by creditors aka "Ima USA world dominator I wonna live in own house for free...."
6. Modern history largest military invasions to independed countries.
7. History largest terroristic acts after millions of army servicemen, police and special forces failed to prevent it.
8. World dumbest president as perfect picture of average nation IQ and level of education of national elite. Re-elected on second term .
9. World hugest decline of dominant racial and cultural group and huge immigrant tide.

Dude, you can post pictures of your 1980's era tanks and warships as long as you want, they are built on Chinese money and one day your creditor will claim it...

And bear in mind, these are achievs of USA nation as whole, not achievs of indiviuals and groups of persons most of which just worked on USA territory...

 

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You see, this is why your opinion on this matter is irrelevant. Your just a biased American who claims to be the best in the world at everything, can't have a debate because you are always right. And the fact that you are taking credit for something you didn't do...your countrymen achieved and accomplished everything in your country's rich history, you didn't do shite.

 

Oh mister historian, did USA started to educate it great nation in WW2 history using some free comics printed on McDonalds packages?

1. You are talking about winter factor so much really... Do you know what are REAL natural conditions which prevented Nazi plans on West? I'll tell you - island position of Britain which resulted in nearly exclusive aerial warfare and the fact that glorious USA is situated on another continent (lol) and barely cared even about Britain destiny at the start.
2. We have only one pure example of large scale battle between combined Western forces and whole German army of that era - its battle for France 1940 when France army, British continental forces and some smaller military powers were facerolled in little more then 1 month.
3. If you have really superior air and naval forces you dont defend your tiny island while begging for help USA and USSR, you are gonna ****ing invade mainland Germany.
4. You are so proud comparing German aircraft losses between Battle of Britain and Kursk (like 1800 + and around 700)... Do you understand that Kursk battle also had main surface operation with around 255 000 killed Germans and more then 1000 destroyed nazi tanks? Battle for Britain is just aerial battle without any other major activity involved. It was ten times smaller that just one of the episodes on Eastern front. Try to use calculator if you dont understand difference in numbers.
5. Indeed, superiority in manpower was a major factor of USSR success, but you forgot that on Western front 1944-1945 Allies had 5 to 1 advantage too. And they didnt faced best nazi troops obviously cause they were long dead already, in Moscow battle, in Stalingrad etc...

Well, american, so american... So obvious brain obesity.

 

well they sure don't mind getting SHOT in the Face, and its not even a sport, and you dont get paid much :rasta

just check the major cities crime rates :gun

 

Please dickhead. This list of opinions has more errors and contradictions than anything of worth.

And anyway your not from Australia so your ****ed from the start.

 

Posted like a worthless ****. Your hero's are terrorists who knife stewardess' and crash planes and accomplish nothing.

 

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Out of participating in 25 summer olympic games the US have picked up a total of 2296 medals, sweden have picked up 475 from 25 summer games. Population of sweden is less the 10 million

The swedes on their own smack the USA :rofl

If you add in winter games it gets far worse for the states with the swedes taking more than half the USA's total medals from the same games played

When you break it down the US is weak in real terms, deal with it :good

Try to think of it like p4p rankings in boxing, except with figures to back it up

 

That is a stupid analogy. And of course outside of the Winter Olympics Sweden is known for its award winning contribution to porn and hot tubs.


How about you put Sweden summer and Winter against Australia pop wise!

 

You disagree? So you believe he isn't biased toward everything American? And if all else fails resorts to insults, example 'Eurofags', etc...

 

OK, 475 medals from 25 summer games to sweden, 432 medals from 24 games to australia. Sweden takes it on average by a medal.

Winter games, 129 medals from 21 games to sweden, 9 medals from 17 games, sweden by a landslide :rofl

Anything else you want compared?

 

Sharkey wasn't a good fighter either. The point is that the heavyweight division was poor, but especially in America, so the fact Baer beat Schmeling doesn't disprove any of my points.

My point was about the general consensus from the fans. Try and disprove that opinion, rather than put your own across. You could think both Baer's, Carnera, Sharkey etc., were the best boxers to ever walk the face of the earth, and even if you were right (Which I guarantee will never, ever happen), it still doesn't prove me wrong. I'm talking about what the majority of fans thought and they acknowledged that the division was weak.

Answer the question: When has America ever produced less warriors than they have now? What era?

 

This thread is absolutely awful. MichiganWarrior is an idiot who people know will never admit to being wrong, which is why these threads go round and round in circles, or, even worse, what's happened to this thread were it goes off on a stupid, completely irrelevant tangent.

Comparing ****ing America to Europe. What a joke. Completely idiotic, so is everyone involved in the argument.

 

Yep - we get smashed in the Winter but considering our climate and facilities we have been doing better.

Now take all those Olympic sports and add all the other sports that Australia and the US are top 3, especially the surge in extreme sports, and perhaps yourself and Anthonyw may understand why boxing is not being reflected in the sporting success of both Australia and America and the original point. Kirik explained it well last page.


And anthonyw Michiganwarrior may be sport biased as am I but the reason's explained by him were pretty much flamed when some are actually right.