The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

There's also the players at universities to account for (as well as the fact that like Europe with European football, the best athletes in America are usually pushed to football or basketball from an early age, so it's erroneous to say "only 1600, theres millions playing, only about 1600 are good enough to be in the NFL at a given time). I'm not going to say that football(soccer) isn't taking away from European/South American/Mexican talent...because it is, that much should be obvious. However, a sport like football(soccer) is not conducive to HEAVYWEIGHTS. How many times do you look out on the field and say "WOW! That guy would be a great heavyweight!". I would guess not too often, because the demands of the sport are as such where someone 200+(and really, in the modern boxing world 225+) are not going to be as successful. Does it take away from talent at the lighter weights, ABSOLUTELY! At the heavyweights? Nope. The main sport in Europe that I can think of that is taking away talent from the heavyweight is rugby.

 

The reason for all the breaks in American sports is the corporate plan to milk every event for nike, pepsi, and whatever other doodad spam. As an American, I find it pretty shameful that we've been cowed by the corporations with this shameless spamming.

Watch an older football, baseball, basketball game. There weren't as many breaks. I mean, TV timeouts for crying out loud! I think it would be interesting to go back to the football days when a player had to play both offense and defense. You'd end up with more rugby type builds.

 

Basically right, but remember an athlete's body is conditioned to the sport he's been playing since childhood. Soccer players would weigh another 20 lbs if they focused less on stamina and quickness and more on upper body strength. There are a lot of good soccer athletes weighing about ~ 200lbs, e.g. Drogba.

Course I'm not saying Drogba would be a great boxer. Just that soccer draws more 225 lb athletes than you might think.

 

No question. And that works with the argument that other posters have written when they say "football players are trained for quick bursts of explosion, then rest and go again". If an American football player from childhood had been trained for boxing instead, he would likely still be strong, maybe not as strong. Still be explosive, but maybe not as explosive. He might be 235-240 instead of 260(if he's a linebacker-defensive end type) But would also be trained to go 12 rounds for his endurance. But since they're NFL players they train less for endurance, more for power, strength, speed, and quickness.

 

Yeah they are in other sports because our society isnt as tough and chivalrous as it used to be


Oh ad Schools are afraid of law suits so they only do wrestling.

 

Again, it is just "sour grapes"!

 

yes it does,if we are talking what if,there are alot of tall people playing soccer and other sports,I say if they took boxing they would be great,more muscular.

Funny how people keep giving excuses and dont see the other side,tallest people are from europe,strongest people are from europe.

But in reality this argument holds nothing,because all is expeculation.

 

Most NFL players could beat any of that. I deadlifted 650 in high school. 530 is nothing. Most NFL players bench well into 400's. 6'6 242 is pretty skinny. Lebron James is 6'8 260 and he's a basketball player. Larry Allen once claimed a 700lb bench press. Though it was probably assist so probably somewhere around 500-600lbs naturally. Assume most NFL linebackers bench around 400-500lbs easy. Really none of thats impressive.

A comparative player Mario Williams, 6'7 290lbs, ran a 4.6 40 yard dash, repped 225 35 times on the bench press(Meaning he would absolutely shatter 365), seriously he'd obliterate the dude you used.

NFL players are much stronger and faster then rugby players. Bigger aswell.


Endurance can be learned with a minimal amount of training.

 

i thought nfl players were all mega-elite athletes? this rugby player can deadlift 770lbs (hes not elite though otherwise he would play nfl right?)

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How the hell can you disagreee Young Americans Athletes not being in other sports?:huh

Here is a Proof for 'ya.. Young NFL dude having a meal after hard trainings

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Can you imagine what these Fine young Talents would do in the Division today.:deal

 

Meh I never considered dead lift to mean anything. I wasnt particularly strong in high school, maxed out at like 280 and I deadlifted 650 pretty easy.

However this guy would get slaughtered in the NFL. I'd fully expect him to call have one of those stretchers called out for himself like the gay soccer players use when they stub their toe.

 

Thats actually Eddie Chambers right before he beat Dimitrenko.

 

ah right, so he lifts just under elite standard weightlifiting but because hes a rugby player and not an nfl player hes a *****? right. I love also how you can tell he would be slaughtered....by one photo, he could be the real life ****ing terminator for all you know....but then you are from bitchigan so what do you really know? your parents are probably cousins.

 

Mate rugby is not the main sport in europe at all, france, the home nations, italy and to a very lesser degree spain, portugal, georgia and russia are roughly all that play it to a very high pro level or to a very decent level (semi pro etc), football is where it is at for most males in europe, and that will never change sadly, im a huge rugby guy, but thats the way it is

 

......Dirrell? :huh