The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

We saw what happened when six times strongest man in the world Mariusz Pudzianowski tried MMA, he gassed out after a round. Same thing would happen to your NFL lumps in a boxing ring if they were up against anybody half decent, probably more so.

 

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Mariusz Pudzianowsk started MMA in his mid thirties, he's not a good example. If you took the best White or Black NFL players, and trained them in boxing from a young age, they would whip the K Bros. Of course this is just speculation.

 

Nice try mate but you are failing to convince anyone but yourself. The K's are special elite athletes and have been knocking over all comers for a decade. Bring on your dumb NFL meatheads, see how long they would last. Wlad pays $2m per challenger so go find your man. lol.

 

Maybe someone forgot to tell you. You don't produce a lot of great fighters. Your country is known for producing **** fighters. And believe me I know because I have been a fan of most of your country's fighters. You are in a recent upswing of producing good fighters:

Benn, Eubank, Honeyghan, Hatton, Khan, Froch....all good but none are great.

Calzaghe was very good, but unfortunately he didn't fight top competition in his prime to really know how good.

Lennox some believe was a great Heavyweight (I don't I believe he was very good; I believe without a doubt that a prime Holyfield or Tyson beats him. Especially Holyfield)

So out of the entire history of boxing you have ONE great heavyweight. And he is really considered great because he was your one and only true champ of the world in modern times.

Then you have the super middleweight division......a division that doesn't have any real legacy. But you have produced some very good fighters but maybe only Calzaghe you could say had great talent. The rest were pretty good to good.....nothing more. And I love Froch but I know Froch isn't a great fighter.

 

You are proving my point. $2mil is chump change for these guys. They wouldn't even let Wlad perform fellatio on them for $2mil.

 

Chump money for chump challengers then! Despite their bloated salaries, nobody knows who these NFL guys are outside North America, nobody! The only NFL related guys I could name you are Dan Marino and OJ Simpson. Hold on... Joe Montana, that's all!

 

Not saying they are world famous brother. Just better athletes.

 

Your definition of the word "athlete" and mine are obviously some way apart. In my estimation they are not better athletes, they are suited to one sport - gridiron, a sport anyone can play if they can run a 100m in under 11 secs and weigh in at over 200.

 

If you take a athlete like Calvin Johnson 6'5, 236 pounds , and instead of playing football, but teaching him to box at the age of 7 and making him train for boxing instead of football. He could be something great. I can see him having very fast hands and having a slick style
He runs a 4.35 in the 40 yard dash and has a 42.5 inch vertical leap. Imagine if he choose boxing instead of football when he was little

 

In the NFL, you need more than just speed and power, how about agility, balance, eye hand coordination, spatial intelligence, toughness, work-ethic, also quick lateral movement, etc. Not every track star can just become a great NFL player.

I was just listening to an American heavy weight prospect interview on a boxing podcast, and the reason he got into boxing was because he wasn't good enough to get drafted to the NFL.

 

Wow. This board is going way downhill. I feel like it's 1932 and the Nazi's are trying to prove racial superiority and the more they believed their diatribe, the more it hurt when they realized they set themselves up for their own downfall. Word are powerful. They can provoke men to do what was previously unthinkable.

Ask yourself if the NBA and NFL did not exist and in its place was only boxing, if Wladimir Klitschko would be champ. And it's not even that there are better athletes than him, which of course there are, it's that he lacks the one intangible that can overcome physical superiority. He proved he lacked this when he went down the second time in the Sanders fight without getting hit, his manhood stripped away as if he never was born with a pair of balls in the first place; and he continues to prove this today by avoiding anybody with speed and power. What's worse is the racoist media allows him to get away with it while simeltaneously deriding his black adversary.

But the audacity to say that a man with no heart, who hasn't even mastered every punch in boxing let alone all the technical skills, would continue to be dominant in the scenario that I've presented, should hang their racist, ignorant heads in shame. This is an insult to guys like Ali and .arciano, who not only had skill, but were willing to die in the ring to win. Compare that to the cowering Klitschko and rethink your position.

 

White American athletes from NFL would school the K Bros too. And of course, the Blacks would dominate.

 

Boxing, MMA, and combat sports in general is Plan B for big American athletes when they can't make the big bucks in the stick and ball sports. The new dudes coming into the UFC are NFL dropouts who couldn't hack it, same with boxing.

 

I don't buy that. You get guys transitioning to American football if they have the flat speed I mentioned and strength (weight) in the upper body. The thinking is all done for them by the coaches. The quarterback is maybe the one guy with high skill level and some finesse. You can't just walk into that role, the rest you can easily with the coaches if you can run or weigh plenty muscle. Nobody transitions to soccer, it's a high skill game, although pace and strength are important, just not all important like in NFL.