The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

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  1. bballchump11

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  2. Noam Chomsky

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    All true MMA fans should thank Cain Velasquez.
     
  3. Noam Chomsky

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    Dude, I am not comparing American Football to Football.

    At heavy weight, power is very important. Bob Sapp, a horrible ex NFL player, that was cut from team after team, because he couldn't play ball, and couldn't understand the NFL play book, went into Kick Boxing and beat Ernesto Hoost, twice! I know kickboxing isn't boxing, but it shows you what power can do.
     
  4. Money Shot

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    I just checked your average NFL salary last year was $800k, so $2m would be a lotto win to most of them :yep. $2m for three minutes of battering from the mighty Vitali or Wlad :yep The fight game is a tougher game than NFL. Easy money to run about and charge into padded up bodies for ten seconds at a time. :yep
     
  5. Noam Chomsky

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    Average is not median, come on man, that is basic math. Elite NFL players make way more than Wlad could ever imagine, plus all the endorsement deals. You be trolling bro.
     
  6. Noam Chomsky

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    If Wlad is such a great fighter, let him come to the UFC, and fight an ex Baller that's couldn't make it in the NFL. Wlad could make $3 million in a single fight. I would like to see Wlad use his supreme athleticism to fend off a take down, block kicks to the shins, and see how his chin holds up from a flush shot with 4 ounce gloves.
     
  7. Big Left

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    idiot, you don't get it. a good basketball player is not some genetic freak who would also be a good boxer.

    americans are so sucked in by their TV networks. they think Michael Jordan would have dominate any sport he put his mind to. they only see sport as being about how tall, fast, strong you are.
     
  8. Money Shot

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    I assume the highest paid guys are the quarterback and those whippets he chucks the ball at, and not the lumps that charge into each other that you are laughably promoting as would be Klit beaters. They'd be foaming at the mouth with excitement if you put $2m in front of them. :yep Who is making the crap money if the average is $800k? :huh
     
  9. Noam Chomsky

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    In what sport would it be advantageous to be short, slow, and weak?
     
  10. Big Left

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    :patsch so anyone who is fast, tall and strong would be excellent at any sport they tried?

    LeBron James (or whatever his name is) would be a great boxer if he did nothing but box from 12 years old? do you really believe that?

    do you think tyson would be a great American football player or Pele would be an amazing boxer?

    it is not always about the obvious, there is the unseens - the heart, the spirt, the mind, the desire, the luck, the destiny etc.
     
  11. Noam Chomsky

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    Dude, an NFL roster has over 50 playes, on a team, for every starting quarter-back (the ball chucker) there are three back ups, who don't get paid well. Every position, has back ups, there are 11 players on offense, 11 on defense, and 11 on special teams, and then back ups, there are 32 teams in the league, not everyone is elite, not every team is elite. And rookies in their first few years don't get paid that much. All these backups, up-and comers, kickers, special team players make a lot less, than the stars. Therefore they bring the average down. Plus being a football player guarantees you money even if you get injured, there are endorsement deals, losing one game doesn't hurt your earning potential, even losing the championship doesn't hurt your earnings. Why would they trade that for boxing?
     
  12. Noam Chomsky

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    NFL Salaries by position, the Defensive Ends, Linebackers, and some Wide Receivers are monsters. And they get win bonuses, plus endorsement deals, from Nike, Gatorade, etc. Boxing is ****, Wlad probably has to pay his whole team, these guys don't, the Team pays for training, medical staff, etc.

    1 NFL season lasts from 1s week of Sept to the first week of Jan, when has Wlad made that kind of money in the same span of time?

    http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/nfl/salaries/player/top-25
     
  13. Money Shot

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    OK, a select few of them make big money, but that doesn't mean they could ever have done anything in HW boxing. Mariusz Pudzianowski is a better speciem than all of them and he couldn't hack it in MMA against a bum like Tim Sylvia.
     
  14. Cachibatches

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    No. Wrong.

    Britian has 50 million people and 38 active heavyweight fighters. america has 300 million people and 425 heavyweight fighters. Your numbers are way, way wrong.

    My initial post is the game, set and match of this issue. America is putting up far more heavyweight fighters than any other country, or even the next ten countries combined. Everything else posted on this thread is nonsense.
     
  15. Noam Chomsky

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    See my post above with the link. Pudz is not an American NFL player, he would never make any team in America, or Canada or Europe. Pudz started training MMA at the age of 35.