The argument that American Heavies are "in other sports"

athletism= fitness

American will dominate the NBA because:

1.Its popular in america, not so much in the rest of the world
2. america has a basketball culture developed, so its easier for sportsman to concentrate on the most important aspects of the sport, and dont have to figure out a lot of things, like non american, who dont have as much experience along the way
3. there is more money in the NBA, the PED test are ancient, and porbably(because so much money is flowing trough the sport) corrupt!

but dominating a regional sport does not mean america has superior athletes!
Europeans, Latin americans dominate soccer, does that make them superior athletes??
east, north europeans dominate hockey(the NHL is only 20% american), wintersports, does that mean they are the greatest athletes, because they dominate the sports so much???

 

I am familiar with the NBA but I find the superior athleticism bull**** nauseating and Hitler-esque. It is propaganda and nothing more, the same **** has been happening in the NFL for years.
QB is a white position while RB and WR are black positions, many guys never got a fair chance to display their talent due to this ignorance.
I don't know what you mean by slighted by reality, so no reason to feel sorry for me.
I think there are potential HW's doing a lot of other things in the world, not just playing professional sports. I'm sure there are builders and mechanics out there that would've made great boxers had they given it a go.

 

i dont think the americans are in other sports, i think the ones we have or not on the klitchko's level mentally and damn sure not physically.you can wait for vitli to get old and get caught with a jesus punch, all the other heavys will look better when the klitchko bro's retire.it is what it i just acept it already.

 

This is one ****ing agonising thread.

The conclusions are simple.

Boxing is way down anyone's list in terms of desired professional sporting career, due to it being harder, more corrupt, more unheralded, and unless you're a 1 in a million, less financially rewarding than most other sports - REGARDLESS of what country you live in.

Boxing ability is not directly related to athletic ability. Having athletic ability helps if you have boxing ability AS WELL, but I'd take David Tua over Usain Bolt over 12 rounds any day of the week. (unless you have to run to the ring of course).

Since the breakdown of communism in Eastern Europe, there are bound to be a lot more Eastern Europeans in boxing. For years and years, there was little to no competition (unless somebody defected) from that part of the world. Of course these guys are going to be more prevalent in world boxing these days.

Evander Holyfield only fought US fighters, in the US. He didn't beat a non-US fighter until his farcical fight a while ago against Botha.


The boxing world is changing. If you want to be the best in the world, you have to fight guys from different countries, in their own backyard sometimes. A guy simply couldn't do what Holyfield did these days.

 

Did you ever think that is because any big man with athletic ability in Europe WON'T be playing basketball?

That it's still quite a minor sport in those areas (comparatively), so doesn't attract the best prospects?

Whereas in the US it's such a major sport, it DOES attract the better athletes due to its popularity?

And there are **** all elite US football (soccer players) compared to Europeans. So I guess US guys aren't athletic or skilfull then. I mean, if that's how we're drawing conclusions on things, that holds true as well.

Yeah, it's impressive. So are the best high jumpers in the world, but I don't think they'd be world heavyweight champ either.

I'd be more likely to pick some of the javelin throwers, discus, hammer throwers etc.

 

No they wouldn't. They didn't grow up playing American football, so why would they suddenly switch to it.

Do you think there are thousands of little kids running around Bolton wanting to be wide receivers for the Denver Donkeys or whatever they're called?

Or is American football so easy to pick up that they could do it in a year or so?

Not to mention the fact that professional rugby has a very strict drug testing policy.

Yeah they did. Because they fought other Americans.

Please list for me all the Non-Us fighters Evander Holyfield ever beat, and when.

I'll give you hand. Start looking around his mid 40's.

No, those guys aren't as good. I don't know why. Whether it's the fact that one fight can earn you enough money to live on for the rest of your life or not, I don't know. I certainly think it's a major part of it.

Why would Arreola for example even bother getting in shape, when he can earn bucketloads of money by being fat and only giving the game 60%?

What incentive is there? there is none.

That's why fighters are developed to get to the top without losing, rather than actually improving. Get to a title shot with a 31-0, or 31-1 record, take the millions, and fade away. That's the career progression for pro's these days.

No way in hell a fight even like Ike v Tua gets made today. No way known.

2 young undefeated heavyweight bangers? never happen.

 

Basically besides the other stuff, you agree, todays heavyweights are sh!t and as sh!t as the Europeans are the Americans are just sh!ttier.

Which makes boxing the niche sport it is today.


Hmm why wont more Europeans just say the truth?

 

Oh and btw sandman, if Eastern Europeans are so good at boxing. Why didnt they win medals at the olympics for the 60 years they had the opportunity to?



Was drug testing to stringent for you guys then? Couldnt get those same roided up freaks past the boxing officials that you coudl the track and field and wrestling guys?

 

.............Agreed ... ask Toby Gerhart Stanford running back about not getting a fair shake in the NFL because of skin color...

 

Toby Gerhart is a perfect example, clearly the best RB in the country at Stanford, gets robbed of the Heisman, then is the 6th RB taken in the draft, if he were black he would've been a top 10 pick easy.

 

So big men over 6ft 3, if they train for boxing, wouldn't be HW?

I'm not saying they would be good HW, YOU ARE!

You are saying that if a guy is big and athletic he could make it as HW and that american HW are in NFL, NBA, ABC, etc. I'm saying if that is true for America, why isn't it true for Europe?

 

This is because you don't need to be over 200lbs in football and they train to keep their weight down and bodies fit for football. But there are a lot of players over 6ft 3 (CB or CF mostly) in football. If they where to put muscles on them and train for an other sport they would be over 200lbs. This is what you don't understand.

 

****??? the're bigger and stronger than ever! The fact that they aren't flashy that doesnt mean the're weaker fighters