The art of boxing... "Hit and don't get hit"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WiDDoW_MaKeR, Feb 23, 2008.


  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And you said punches were counted for Mayweather that didn't land. You have no basis for your argument. I never discussed particular punches either that DLH didn't land, just said you counted ones that didn't land. You asked me which ones. Sounds specific to me.
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    What you are doing is making senseless statements in hopes of getting an argument. What is your point? Sultan should have won for landing harder shots?:lol: Nothing that you are saying has anything to do with tonight.

    Also, I don't change my way of scoring to suit my favorite fighters. I already explained that. Pointless though, because you act like you know more about me than I do.


    This was a good performance. A domination over an undefeated Champion, and a unification. Wlad's greatest performance? Of course not... but I am not ignorant enough to pretend or expect like Wladimir needs to brutally knock out every opponent that he faces.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes you do change. Mosley landed harder shots in the 2nd DLH fight and you scored it for DLH because he landed more. When DLH landed harder shots against Whitaker, you scored it for DLH, when Whitaker landed more.
     
  4. albeziel

    albeziel Multi Viral C13 Full Member

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    Wlad did what he needed to do to win. Not in a fans favorite way but he won.
    Too much height and reach for Sultan to handle. I think Wlad could have applied more pressure but he played it safe, very very safe.
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I never directed the comment (of counting Floyd's punches) at you... genius.

    I asked you which punches I supposedly counted for Oscar that didn't land, because you pretended that I counted some that didn't. Get the point yet? I already said that I was speaking in general terms... the compubox stats... commentators... some posters on this site acting like Floyd was doing a paint job on Oscar's face, when he wasn't even hardly landing. Enough info yet? Can we get back on topic now?
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was boring but dominating, why people can't see it as both is beyond me.

    It was unwatchable, but it is impressive in its own way to see a guy beat a top 5 heavyweight with nothing but a jab.
     
  7. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Uhmmm... Oscar outlanded Shane in power punches and jabs. I never even felt that Mosley landed the harder shots. Just because he threw one at a time... doesn't make them harder than Oscar's power punches. Especially considering that Oscar is a more powerful puncher.

    Oscar doubled Whitaker in power punches.

    Also, I score my fights round by round... and in BOTH of those fights I have given detailed descriptions of why and how I scored each round.

    Maybe you score all of your fights on a general basis of he landed harder shots but he landed more... but I score mine round by round.

    Once again NONE OF THS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC AT HAND. I AM DONE.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Why not actually read my post and try to comprehend it. As I have said quite a few times, I brought the other fights up to show that you favor your fighters in any circumstances, which is why you were making this thread trying to big up Wlad, even though his performance certainly didn't deserve it.

    You tried to explain it, but that doesn't mean you convinced anyone.

    You scored DLH the winner against Floyd and Pea because of harder punching, even though they scored more often and accurately. You then turn it around and give Oscar the win in the Mosley rematch because he landed more punches, though Shane landed the harder ones. ALSO, you claim that punchstats were wrong with DLH/Mayweather and that Floyd didn't land nearly as much as they say, but when they favor your man, you cite them as a credible source, such as in the Pea/Oscar fight, by claiming that Oscar landed twice as many power shots, even though anyone with two eyes can see that Oscar was hitting nothing but air in pretty much every combo he threw. I'm sorry, but that's hypocritical.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thank you for the compliment.

    You said that Mayweather was getting credit for shots he didn't land. You said so in the thread, to whomever, doesn't matter. I responded that you counted shots that DLH didn't land. I remember distinctly your posts after that fight saying that they weren't giving DLH credit for punches he landed, especially to the body (PBF blocked them with his elbows). That is where the comment stemmed from. Do you deny saying this? Either way, you asked me which punches did you count...it wasn't a legit question since I cannot prove a negative. You were being sarcastic, so I asked you to do the same, show me the same specific punches he didn't land. Easy enough to follow.
     
  10. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    It always crack me up when guys come on here thinking they are the boxing experts. "the art of boxing", :rofl :rofl

    This is prize fighting. Not the Olympic. The boxers are here to entertain and in the proccess they hope to get a huge following to make big paydays. These fights aren't made for the hardcore boxing fans. Its the casual fans that make or break this sport. Also at this level its no longer about boxing , its about getting the biggest paycheck.

    All this talk about true fight fan, how a boxing fan would view it, and how your not a true boxing fan if you don't enjoy boreing fight doesn't mean crap. It's about entertainment.You want to argue style and technique go watch the amateur.
     
  11. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what about 'don't get hit and don't get hit'? Those two could start a whole new sport
     
  12. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I knew that Klitschko fans had a rep for being fanatics defending any and everything, but tonight you guys are taking it to a whole new level:rofl
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Oh yeah... here us losers are... celebrating a shut-out win over an undefeated Champion.:patsch
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone, ringside and elsewhere knows Mosley landed the harder shots that night. Power shots is not a true definitive term since they have nothing to do with power. Mosley landed harder shots period. It doesn't matter if you saw this or not (I reckon if everyone else did, you did). It was rather obvious to anyone with eyes. Oh, and Whitaker outlanded DLH overall. The power punches were no more important than Whitaker's jab, since his jab controlled the fight.

    We all score round by round BTW.

    I could care less who landed harder shots. How would you know my scoring criteria? I never gave any indication of who I thought won that fight, just said I have seen you contradict yourself.
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Wow... you are sad. You really have to make **** up, just to argue?:lol: :rofl