The ATG fighter's didnt need no stinkin' Strength and conditioners

Thats right but thats the first thing they throw at you, their credentials, "I have a master's degree in S&C, from Sakkachips university, and have worked with all kinds of athletes, Hockey Players, football players, basketball, and baseball." Thats fine have you ever trained a boxer? "Er' no but his muscle fiber, twitch muscles, explosive power, blah, blah, blah". Actual conversation with an S&C coach.

My point is that S&C coaches, the one's I have run into, seem to have no background in boxing and claim to know all there is to know, if you don't agree then you're old school.
They tend to whip out their resume if you question them about anything they perceive as old school.

 

Yep, these same guys trained guys to go hard for 15,20, 25 to 45 rds and they did alright, look at the long line of ATG and HOF'rs these oafs trained without the benefit of those wonderful S&C guys.
I hate to burst your bubble but here is a clue, old school guys didn't want musclebound bodybuilders, that was why they disliked weight training, they chopped wood, used pulley's, medicine balls. Another thing to consider these oafs knew that being musclebound was not a good thing, which even today they still believe. S&C guys always come up with that arguement, that old school guys "thought weight training was evil". They still do give these oafs some credit cos they do incorporate strength training in their training.

About wearing boots sorry again to burst that bubble, back in those days they didn't have fancy running shoes.

 

Jeez, now who is the "****"? I am sure with your superior intellect you might have misunderstood what I was trying to say. Old timers as well as new school guys have to agree training with weights builds muscle, but if you do it correctly then it helps thats why its call strength training. Thats why I mentioned chopping wood, pulley's, medicine balls, they did their own version of strength training they didn't have these hi tech machines they have now and to tell you the truth not many gyms or guys can afford to join another gym, or may not even have access to a S&C coach where they live.
Weight training to me means training with weights, and training with weights can make you musclebound. A fighter should do some strength training, is something we can all agree on.

 

Any decent coach can get a guy in shape for a four or six rd fight.

Just cos there are new and improved ways to get a guy in condition doesn't mean that it is the only way to get a guy into condition. Maybe you come from a big city and can afford to have a S&C coach handy most rural areas fighters may not have access to them or the new hi tech machines.

it's a no-brainer a S&C coach can get a guy into shape cos he is primarily working on condition.

A boxing coach has to oversee what is being worked on and and how hard its being worked on.

The thing you may not understand is there are different levels of boxing. "for the guys at the top who have reached there peak in boxing skill, maybe a bit more strength or conditioning can take them to the next level."

"For guys that are still learning their craft, you need to spend more time learning boxing and less conditioning."
You just need to know how much time to spend on each. Always come into the ring fit." And thats where the boxing coach comes in.

The point of this tread is simple you dont need a S&C coach, believe it or not there are ways to get a guy ready for the hardest fights that dont involve S&C coaches.

 

Hmmm! It only falls apart when you make foolish comments, here is some more, night means night, and night means dark.
My point is simple guns dont kill people, people kill people, weights dont make people musclebound, people make people musclebound. This is silly.
Dont nitpick like an old lady.