The Battle Of The Juicers: Ortiz v Povetkin..who ya got?

mirkofilipovic · Dec 18, 2016

Todd498 said: ↑

Statement from Povetkins promoter:

“Double standards, no doubt about it. Here’s an example – the investigation over Povetkin and meldonium lasted for nearly six months. It took only several days to settle down Stiverne’s case. “The key question is why are we getting positive test results? They all repeatedly prove negative in all other laboratories, including the US lab, except for one random sample that we get immediately prior to the fight. Don’t want to jump to conclusions; just want to say it’s a strange coincidence." Ryabinsky said that Povetkin has been passing doping tests consistently throughout the year, both before and after fights. “To assert that he has ingested something [prohibited] is simply impossible. Theoretically, I can assume that this substance turned up in his test accidentally. This happens sometimes. At least Stiverne, when he was cleared and allowed to fight, used this phrasing, saying that the [prohibited] substance turned up in his system accidentally,” he said. Ryabinsky pointed out that, although Povetkin had provided the sample last Tuesday, VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) chose to notify the fighters of the allegedly failed test only at the last minute, on Saturday. “This is not normal practice, it’s very strange,” Ryabinsky said. “It’s the second time that right before the fight, all of a sudden, we get a ‘dirty’ test result – one and only, with all others coming clean. This happened before the fight with Wilder, when there had been five tests, and the fourth allegedly turned out to be dirty, while the fifth came out clean again. In the long run, Povetkin was acquitted, but the bout with Wilder was cancelled. Looks like history is repeating itself with Stiverne right now."
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It is strange, lets see evidence of Povetkin passing drug tests for USADA or UKAD or other reputable drug testing agencies, I would really love to believe Povetkin, I just need more proof.

Angler Andrew · Dec 18, 2016

Todd498 said: ↑

Statement from Povetkins promoter:

“Double standards, no doubt about it. Here’s an example – the investigation over Povetkin and meldonium lasted for nearly six months. It took only several days to settle down Stiverne’s case. “The key question is why are we getting positive test results? They all repeatedly prove negative in all other laboratories, including the US lab, except for one random sample that we get immediately prior to the fight. Don’t want to jump to conclusions; just want to say it’s a strange coincidence." Ryabinsky said that Povetkin has been passing doping tests consistently throughout the year, both before and after fights. “To assert that he has ingested something [prohibited] is simply impossible. Theoretically, I can assume that this substance turned up in his test accidentally. This happens sometimes. At least Stiverne, when he was cleared and allowed to fight, used this phrasing, saying that the [prohibited] substance turned up in his system accidentally,” he said. Ryabinsky pointed out that, although Povetkin had provided the sample last Tuesday, VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) chose to notify the fighters of the allegedly failed test only at the last minute, on Saturday. “This is not normal practice, it’s very strange,” Ryabinsky said. “It’s the second time that right before the fight, all of a sudden, we get a ‘dirty’ test result – one and only, with all others coming clean. This happened before the fight with Wilder, when there had been five tests, and the fourth allegedly turned out to be dirty, while the fifth came out clean again. In the long run, Povetkin was acquitted, but the bout with Wilder was cancelled. Looks like history is repeating itself with Stiverne right now."
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I must admit until I read this I couldn't work out why they chose to break the news straight before the fight,very odd from the drug testing agency in my opinion and yes the fact that Stiverne was allowed to pay off a fine for his is strange no?

Todd498 · Dec 18, 2016

Angler Andrew said: ↑

I must admit until I read this I couldn't work out why they chose to break the news straight before the fight,very odd from the drug testing agency in my opinion and yes the fact that Stiverne was allowed to pay off a fine for his is strange no?
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Yep! That's why I've been saying people should wait until ALL facts come out.

Todd498 · Dec 18, 2016

DoubleJab666 said: ↑

But he's failed a drugs test, right? I mean, have I got that wrong? You can't call a boxer with a failed test to his name 'probably the cleanest heavyweight in the game'. Clearly, there are others on PEDs who have not been caught but Ortiz has. By definition he cannot be the cleanest....

[url]http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/11745451/heavyweight-luis-ortiz-tested-positive-steroid-wake-winning-interim-title[/url]
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Lol THIS^^^

Todd498 · Oct 28, 2017

ThatsRight11 said: ↑

by definition Ortiz is at current the cleanest heavyweight in the sport, is tested all year round with vada no other heavyweight is doing this! means it's impossible for him to be on anything
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YOU Good Riddance

Flamazide · Oct 28, 2017

Ortiz did PEDs in the past, but doesn't seem to be on anything currently.
Povetkin actually never tested positive for anything.

Meldonium and blood pressure medication doesn't count.

greenhornet · Oct 28, 2017

Blackclouds said: ↑

Add Hughie and Tyson Fury to this tourney, I knew I missed a couple. Who else should join this PED tourney?
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stiverne

Gil Gonzalez · Oct 28, 2017

Every HW fight for the last 14 years has been the Battle of the Juicers.

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