The Best 3 All Time Heavyweights - Primes.

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  1. Guido

    Guido ESB Addict Full Member

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    Sold! I rate Holmes higher than Foreman in terms of accomplishments and all-time rankings, but H2H, these are the three I think would just dominate. Liston isn't far off. I just don't see it with Tyson - never did.
     
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  2. pugilist_boyd

    pugilist_boyd BUSTED UP PUG Full Member

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    # 1-louis -# 2 dempsey # 3 jeffries #4 ali #5 tyson these picks are in the fighters best primes not durring title reign nessicerely and this order could flip flop by the time i get done typing way to close to call ali would mainly have to use his bicycling feet to beat any of them
     
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  3. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    #1-Ali
    #2-Louis
    #3-Marciano
     
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  4. Seamus

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    Louis
    Ali
    Lewis

    next would be Dempsey, Tyson and Holmes.
     
    Seamus, Jul 26, 2008
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  5. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson has no right to be in a top 3...

    Take a moment to look at what others could do and what they did do... Tyson was a dangerous fighter but the ratings here are nonsense...
     
    Ezzard, Jul 26, 2008
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  6. META5

    META5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Out of interest, which HWs in their absolute prime impress you more than prime Tyson ... Ability wise, technically, skillset ... whatever your criteria are. Can you name them and explain why you make your conclusions?
     
    META5, Jul 26, 2008
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  7. Muchmoore

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    Precisely. And before people say he never beat a great fighter in his prime well neither did Holmes, Dempsey, Lennox Lewis, etc. etc. there are many "greats" that have a weaker resume than Tyson that are rated higher. The only men who defeated a "great" fighter in his prime in the past 60 years is Ali defeating Foreman, and Bowe beating Evander.
     
    Muchmoore, Jul 26, 2008
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  8. Muchmoore

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    Foreman, Liston, Frazier all had the power and speed to hurt Ali, but they never could finish him. and two of these three fought him past his prime. Tunney is not not an ATG HW.
     
    Muchmoore, Jul 26, 2008
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  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    :verysad

    I hate to be the one to break the news to you but there`s a strong chance you could be mentally ill (assuming your post wasnt a joke of course)
     
    Bill Butcher, Jul 26, 2008
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  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    The record books state that Mike Tyson is the youngest ever heavyweight champion at age 20 with Patterson 2nd at 21 & Ali 3rd at 22.

    THATS FACT.... not opinion, but fact, check it out if you dont believe me.

    :thumbsup
     
    Bill Butcher, Jul 26, 2008
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  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    1. Clay beat Doug Jones by at least 2 rds, watch the fight instead of reading biased peoples opinions.

    2. Norton (3rd fight) & young might have deserved the decisions but Ali was never much good after the 3rd Frazier fight.

    3. Ali beat Shavers, Frazier (2nd fight) & Norton (2nd fight)

    4. Im guessing your name is rd 15 because of rd 15 in the FOTC & Ali is not your favourite boxer, in fact far from it ?
     
    Bill Butcher, Jul 26, 2008
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  12. Bummy Davis

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    Joe Louis fought the most defenses, great # of still prime ex Champs, greatest power/combo puncher, 25 title defenses 68-3...Joe was the ultimate fighting machine, economical but effieciant

    Rocky Marciano 49-0 43 KO's 6 title defenses vs 5 # 1 and 1 # 2 rated contender, Hard 2 fisted puncher,great workrate and stamina, late power, great recup, mental strength,solid chin,Rythym breaker,punched collar bones, arms

    Ali...beat Foreman,Liston,Frazier, Norton,Spinks...fastest hands good feet,solid chin...mental strength....Prime in Frazier 1...Foreman 1...Liston 1...good ability to adapt, confuse and conceal, showman..who conviced the crowd, his opponents and the ref
     
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  13. Seamus

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    Which is why I not only find many of his fights boring and shams but also his legacy is extremely flawed as he inspired generations of whiners and actors and ****-ant showmen. Ali did a lot to destroy the sport of boxing.
     
    Seamus, Jul 26, 2008
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  14. ripcity

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    1.Tyson
    2. Louis
    3. Ali
     
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  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    :lol:

    You should do stand up.

    Ali saved boxing you nutter. :nut
     
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