The Best 3 All Time Heavyweights - Primes.

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  1. Miguelito

    Miguelito Member Full Member

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    1)Mike Tyson-cause in his prime he would handle anyone on this list and a crime to not even have him on your top 3 bro:patsch
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    2) Muhammad Ali
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    3)Joe Louis-once again how does Lennox and Sonny get passed the Brown Bomber?
    4)I actually have a tie for this spot giving JL the close edge over Rocky Marciano:deal
     
    Miguelito, Jul 28, 2008
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  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I think you could make a case for about seven or so champions being #1 or #2.
     
    Mendoza, Jul 28, 2008
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  3. PlayerGold81

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    1 Muhammed Ali
    2 Sonny Liston
    3 Frazier

    In his Prime I think Listons reach and power could of been enough to just beat Frazier. Peak condition Frazier just edges out Foreman for third.
     
    PlayerGold81, Aug 2, 2008
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  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Fair enough but think of it this way....

    Mike Tyson was without question due a shot at the world champion when he fought Berbick so more than likely if there was still only one belt (as I believe there should be) then Tyson would have still got that shot & at that particular time, Tyson was the best HWT on the planet & would have beaten whoever had that one belt if you get what I mean.....
    So why should Tyson be stripped of being the youngest ever HWT champ just because there are more belts now than when Ali & Patterson won it, thats crazy. The fact is... those 3 won the HWT title because they were the best HWTs in the world at that time & of those 3, Mike was the youngest so IMO the record books are correct.

    I mean... its not as if Joe Louis or one of the other ATGs held a title when Mike beat Berbick... then you could say that he didnt beat the real champ.... but Mike was THE BEST & Berbick only got what any other belt holder at that time would have got.

    Cheers !

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    Bill Butcher, Aug 2, 2008
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  5. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Than you think Ruiz was as much hw champion of the world as Ali? Wow, i´m shocked.
     
    Loewe, Aug 2, 2008
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  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Difference was.... Ali was the best HWT in the world when he won the title, Tyson was WITHOUT DOUBT the best HWT in the world when he won the title, John Ruiz was probably not the best HWT in the world when he won the title, he just happened to be better than one of the other belt holders, this was not the case for Ali or Tyson.

    To put it another way.... Tyson at age 20 managed to become the best HWT on the planet (something no other HWT has ever done) he just had to ***** slap Berbick for it to be made official but everyone knew anyway as Im sure you did too.

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    Bill Butcher, Aug 2, 2008
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  7. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Maybe Tyson was the best hw at the time but to prove it he had to beat the man who beat the man - and that was Spinks and not Berbick.
     
    Loewe, Aug 2, 2008
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