The best American amateur fighter?

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Breland was enormously good and looked great. Howard Davis Jr also looked a million dollars in the ams.
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1972, 1974, 1975) *Lost in the finals in 1973 to Randy Shields
    National Golden Gloves Champion (1974)
    North American Boxing Championships Gold Medalist (1974, 1975)
    Pan Am Games Champion (1975)
    Olympic Gold Medalist (1976)
    Amateur Record: 145-5

    Howard Davis Jr.
    NY Golden Gloves Champion (1973, 1974, 1975, 1976)
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1973, 1976)
    North American Champion (1973)
    World Amateur Champion (1974)
    Olympic Gold Medalist (1976)
    Amateur Record: 125-5

    Tyrell Biggs
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1981, 1982, 1983)
    World Amateur Champion (1982)
    Olympic Gold Medalist (1984)
    Amateur Record: 108-6-4

    Donald Curry
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1978, 1979)
    National Golden Gloves Champion (1980)
    World Cup Champion (1980)
    *Member of the 1980 US Boxing Team that boycotted the Olympics (Defeated Davey Moore in the Final)
    Amateur Record: 400-4

    Bernard Taylor
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1976, 1978, 1979)
    National Golden Gloves Champion (1976, 1977, 1978, 1980)
    Pan Am Games Champion (1979)
    World Cup Champion (1979)
    * Member of the 1980 US Boxing Team that boycotted the Olympics
    Amateur Record: 481-8 (yes, 481)

    Leon Spinks
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1974, 1975, 1976)
    World Amateur Championship Bronze Medalist (1974)
    Pan Am Games Silver Medalist (1975)
    Olympic Gold Medalist (1976)
    Amateur Record: 178-7

    Oscar De La Hoya
    National Golden Gloves champion (1989)
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1990, 1991)
    Goodwill Games Champion (1990)
    Olympic Gold Medalist (1992)
    Amateur record: 223-5

    Kelcie Banks
    National Golden Gloves Champion (1985)
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1986, 1987)
    World Amateur Champion (1986)
    Pan Am Games Champion (1987)
    Amateur Record: 460-86

    Clint Jackson
    National AAU (U.S.) Champion (1974, 1975, 1976, 1977) *runner-up in 1978
    National Golden Gloves Champion (1974, 1975, 1976)
    World Amateur Championships Silver medalist (1974)
    Pan Am Games Champion (1975)
    Amateur Record: 139-14
     
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  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think it's Holyfield. He struggled with Ricky Womack.

    He did get screwed in the Olympics, though.

    He's one of those types whose style was more suited to the Pros.
     
  4. Saad54

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    Jackson and Banks clearly should have turned pro earlier. They burnt out in the amateurs.

    I am surprised how long Bernard Taylor lasted at a good pro level considering he had so many amateur fights.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree on all three points.

    Up to the McGuigan fight, Taylor was still excellent. And his win over Calvin Grove was really exciting. Taylor is a very underrated fighter. NOBODY talks about Bernard Taylor. Ever. Missed out on the Olympics because of the boycott. Drew with Pedroza. Just missed being a legend by "that much."

    Meanwhile, Banks and Jackson seemed like old men even in their early pro fights. They were all used up.
     
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  6. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    So Frazier was very lucky, if Matthis got injured. But it was not the final, but semi-final against the Soviet.
     
  7. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    Then he is relevant too, as he was named in the past here for it.
     
  8. mcvey

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    I'm aware of that.Frazier beat German Hans Huber in the final to take the gold. I wouldn't call Frazier that lucky, he fought the final with a broken thumb.
     
  9. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    But Matthis had a Brocken knuckles and the competition was probably not so hard in the tournament as it became later.
     
  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mark Breland probably owns this, though Leonard, Davis Jr., Dokes, L. Spinks, Jackie Beard, and Taylor gives him a run. Bernard could have been a better pro had he fought better competition. He probably edged Pedroza though his showing in his hometown wasn't the best.
     
  11. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most of the web sites say that Sugar Ray Robinson’s Amateur record was 85-0 with 69 KO’s and 40 in the 1st round. I don’t know how they came up with this But it’s not true.

    Robinson began his Amateur career in Police Athletic League Competitions in 1934.
    Robinson lost to Billy Graham in 1935 in 95 lb. Final of Boys Athletic League Championships.
    He lost to Pasquale Pesca on Feb 16, 1938 - NYGG Tournament 118 Sub-Novice
    He lost to Charlie Baginski on Aug 25, 1938 - Thompsonville, CT - (V.F.W. Arena)
    He lost to Harvey Lacelle on Sept 30, 1938 - Kingston, NY - (Municipal Auditorium)
    From January 29, 1938 to Sept 27, 1940, we have found 61 bouts and he was 57-3-1 with 24 KO’s, 11 KO’s in the 1st round. This is NOT counting the Graham fight either.
     
  12. hhascup

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    I also know that Joe Frazier lost to Gerard O'Neill on February 21, 1964 in the New Jersey Golden Gloves Tournament (FINALS).
     
  13. Drew101

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    Frazier won gold in 1964.
     
  14. richdanahuff

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    Mark Breland was the U.S. amateur GOAT
     
  15. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    It was already declared here, one month ago.
    I suppos the competition was weak when.
     

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