The best Cruiser Weight after Holyfield ?

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  1. slash

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    good info from the brighton bomber.

    remember also, folks, when tyson was heavyweight champion, the pundits said he was unbeatable, with only one person given even a small chance to hang with with him- evander holyfield.

    holyfield got massive respect as the cruiserweight champion. most respected cruiserweight champion, during their reign, ever.

    second best cruiserweight champion? i'll have to read this thread again.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    this is a similar problem you have with SMW. The guys who once stayed in SMW for long periods were generally regarded as ducking jokes hiding from serious divisions, often with some justification for that observation. Roy Jones is easily pretty much regarded by the majority as the best SMW ever H2H, mainly for what he did above that weight division. And rightly so, even though Ottke defended much more often, Calzaghe had a much longer reign and Eubank had a greater number of tough opposition, they are not seen as coming close in terms of who is best.

    Holy is very similar to Roy in this respect.
     
  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Sweet Hey-Zeus, Herol has managed to drag a load of long retired SMW's into a debate about the who are the greatest crusierweight of all time.

    This forum is hilarious.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    CW shows similarities to SMW more than any other division, same era of inception, similar part of the scale of weight divisions, similar crop of champions making their name in the same way, similar perspectives held about the division.

    why do you deny this? let me know why you do. if not, u laugh at yourself. good on you for doing so.
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    No, that title goes to GGG surely?
     
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  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    And you couldn't wait to draw parallels, could you? By all means carry on, you're very much entitled to just as I am to find it amusing.

    Priest: Herol, do you take this woman, in sickness and in health to be your lawful wedded wife?

    Herol: Well the thing about Joe Calzaghe's reign was...
     
  7. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Opening this post, I have thought about achievements in CW (the both limits - 190 and 200), regardless of achievements in the HW.
     
  8. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield #3 ?? Without Haye ?? Prejudice ??
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    actually my entry is on the 6th page on this thread.It appears I could wait 6 pages.. HOWEVER, your comment "couldnt wait" since YOU replied WITHIN 2 POSTS to me.

    It is in fact you, only you out of everyone on this thread, who by a pretty big margin could not wait to add your reply.

    Your argument destroyed yourself, my condolences for you once again acheiving this.
     
  10. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    O'Neil Bell and Jirov were pretty good cruisers.
     
  11. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do you mean ? Are you serious ?
     
  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Tony Bellew is not a great Cruiser, and neither was Makabu... Totally irrelevant to this thread.
     
  13. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Why would I?
     
  14. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, I have watched this match, Tony was decent...If he defeat Usyk, Gassiev, Lebedev, Huck, Glowacki - he may be considered top 10 CW.
     
  15. drenlou

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    Lol