The best example of range-control in boxing? Video. Lopez KO2 Lin

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Watch this. Watch how Lopez controls the distance with lateral movement and feeling out, fake jabs - Lopez has an absolutley ideal feel for his opponents range and movement by the end of round 1. In the first, he leads with the right, with moderate success and blocks his opponents left beautifully. He employs his jab and looks for the uppercut in the final minute of the round.

    But the defining clinic is the one on range. Look carefully. Lopez absolutley controls when exchanges occur. He moves easily out of range at will and also moves in at will. He uses a fey jab as a range finder, and an extended left as an exploritory probe. Most of all he uses footwork to test his opponents mobility and speed. It's a masterclass in generalship.

    Note how calm he looks between round one and two. He doesn't take a deep breath.

    Note Lopez takes a tighter circle at the beginning of round two. He's still moving and on the toes but he's also leaving less between him and his opponent and looking for the right on the end of the jab more frequently, as well as leading with that lethal left upper more often. He's gone from pure boxer to box--puncher with pay off at around thirty seconds with a serious left hook which was posing as a jab. The left hook on 50 seconds is pretty hard, but Lopez does not get excited. He reminds me of Louis, job in hand he goes about it.

    I love Lopez. Note the way he momentarily goes southpaw when he moves across an opponent. Note the way he identifies the killer punch not at random but by way of use. Not his change of tact when he identifies a superior one.

    Great, great fighter.



    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]vn7A5TrV4A8&feature=related[/yt]



    If you are watching the video you can skip the first minute as it is just the introductions. Lopez is in white.
     
  2. the cobra

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    Fascinating fighter to watch. His footwork itself is amazing to observe, how many fighters can claim as much. I side with most (and probably yourself considering I've seen you post about 3 vids of Lopez) when saying he was the closest thing to a flawless fighter. He ranks very, very highly (very easily could be #1) when I think of the BEST all-around fighters I've ever seen.

    Who is the man he's in the ring with here?
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The Cobra, my new favourite poster.

    This is Rocky Lin.


    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=001236&cat=boxer
     
  4. the cobra

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    I have a question McGrain. I've seen a lot of footage of Lopez, and despite my efforts, I tend to randomly spot one of the infinite amount of things he was so good at and then focus almost entirely on this one aspect instead of the overall performance. My question is, have you seen a flaw yet? Anything, even if it's trivial when taking in the overall perspective.
     
  5. McGrain

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    In my last Lopez thread it was suggested that he gets a bit high when moving forwards on occasion.

    My answer: no.
     
  6. the cobra

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    Last question: What's a reasonable placing for Lopez on an all-time list P4P in your opinion?
     
  7. McGrain

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    When I been drinking #1 seems reasonable.

    Objectably, taking into consideration weight classes and opposition, i've struggled to place him higher than #50. He's a real Roy Jones Junior, but my man doesn't have the chin issues.

    Ricardo was a wonder. He needed Carbajal or Gonzalez though, to push up.

    Still, he's a Study alright.
     
  8. the cobra

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    I've actually always been more impressed by Lopez than I was with Jones. Solid skills and unrealistic athleticism, but overall I feel Ricardo's a notch above him. RJJ's resume is obviously superior, but very few have ever impressed me the way Lopez has. A few months back I had nothing to do and made a top 80 all-time list, I put Lopez at #53 (it's saved on my computer).
     
  9. salsanchezfan

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    .............Lopez was a little marvel. I tend to question the validity of claims that he never fought anyone; true, he really needed a big-time opponent to move up in many people's eyes, but think about it.......unlike the heavies or middleweights or the divisions typically force-fed to us, the contenders in these lighter weights are unheard of by those not in Asia or Central America. The reasoning goes then, how could they be any good if we haven't heard of them? "How could this guy be rated so highly? Look at his resume! I haven't heard of a single guy on his record!" :roll:

    I think that usually speaks more to the lack of knowledge on the part of the reader than any true drawbacks to a fighter's record.
     
  10. McGrain

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    Spooky, I had him at #53 last time I updated my list!

    Better than Jones? Marginal. Imagine Lopez outgunned by an opponent - he's probably done, doesn't have the WHAM that Jones has, if you see what I mean, that very sudden, very definite attack. If some imagined opponent at a higher weight had the beating of Lopez (and obviously they would get to big for him at some point) he wouldn't have that magic touch.

    On the other hand, Jones suffered late in his career from his lack of fundamental soundness. It's quite possible Lopez would still be champion!
     
  11. McGrain

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    Excellent point well made.

    Hopkins is consistantly lauded for his multiple defences against relative non-entities famous for their division.
     
  12. Mohak

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    I've never seen anything on Lopez before. Thank you.
     
  13. McGrain

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    :good
     
  14. salsanchezfan

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    .............Absolutely; was Robert Allen any better than Rocky Lin? Highly doubt it.
     
  15. McGrain

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    There is some level of parity though Allen may edge it.

    The big difference? Lopez blasts his man out of there with near-perfect boxing.